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Bman024 01-07-2013 11:01 PM

Explosion of ramshorn snails
 
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Well This morning awoke to yet another explosion of ramshorn snails in my 29G. I had this happen once before and manually picked out most all of them. Must have missed some or they laid eggs before I could rid them. Anyway, I am wondering what can help keep the population under control? Is it that I might be overfeeding and that is why it exploded again or? I've head of loaches but really hadn't planned on adding a loach. I do however plan to add a pair of GBR's. I've heard they might eat baby snails??



Also, say hello to Mr. Gold Nugget! ;)

bostoneric 01-08-2013 12:16 AM

a clown loach will clean out all the snails, but if you have shrimp expect the clown loach to eat all those also.

but yes if you have a growing population of snails then there must be plenty for them to eat.

MABJ 01-08-2013 12:36 AM

No.. Everybody needs to stop suggesting adding fish and stuff to take care of problems that have a root with our habits.

If you have snails you like, an assassin snail is out of the question as well.

You have an issue with how much you feed.

Depending on how many shrimp you have, you may not need to feed nearly as much as you do.

See with ramshorns, you can use them as great markers of how much you feed.

Feed too much, you'll see explosions of them.

Feed too little, a die off.

Feed just right? They'll get a few to survive to adulthood.

Betta Maniac 01-08-2013 02:22 AM

I fall into the "afraid they'll out compete" my shrimp trap.

R.sok 01-08-2013 02:30 AM

I used to have a semi explosion of them. What I did was add a big piece of food every 3 days..all the shrimp & snails would gather around it & from there I would manually remove them.

GeToChKn 01-08-2013 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MABJ (Post 2176746)

Depending on how many shrimp you have, you may not need to feed nearly as much as you do.

See with ramshorns, you can use them as great markers of how much you feed.

Feed too much, you'll see explosions of them.

Feed too little, a die off.

Feed just right? They'll get a few to survive to adulthood.


THIS!!!!

In my fish tanks, I tend to overfeed as they are heavily planted so the fish have a harder time finding the food and the extra food basically becomes my macro dosing. lol. They have lots of snails. My shrimp tanks, I don't feed nearly as generously and they have far fewer snails.

Ramshorn especially seem to breed when they eat lots, they don't eat, they don't breed and it seems to be a pretty consistent rate at which they do vs food, so it's a great gauge on your feeding.

DogFish 01-08-2013 04:31 AM

I've been trying to develop a line of Blue Ramshorns and Red/Gold Ramshorns (different tanks). I find the best way to control them is to try to breed them. Seems like when you want baby snails it just don't happen. :hihi:

When you have to many put an algae wafer in a fish net and leave it the tank over night. In the morning remove the net full of snails. Return the ones you want back to the tank. Really just that easy.

MABJ 01-08-2013 06:36 AM

I don't have the patience for a full blue line, but I'm working on a red line :)

But yep. GeTo has it right

Bman024 01-08-2013 06:03 PM

Thanks for the replies! I am pretty sure it exploded because I was overfeeding. I will cut down on my feeding and manually rid them one more time. Didn't want to go the loach route but might get a couple assassins..

DogFish 01-08-2013 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MABJ (Post 2178793)
I don't have the patience for a full blue line, but I'm working on a red line :)
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I prefer my Red/Golds. I think the Blues look better under the LEDs in my 40.

MABJ 01-08-2013 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DogFish (Post 2183577)
I prefer my Red/Golds. I think the Blues look better under the LEDs in my 40.

Interesting observation.. I love all types of ramshorns. I'll buy a blue line eventually. I just won't breed them Lolz. All my breeding kinda halted because my crayfish seek out and eat ramshorns. >_>

ThatGuyWithTheFish 01-08-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MABJ (Post 2178793)
I don't have the patience for a full blue line, but I'm working on a red line :)

But yep. GeTo has it right

Really? I do, though I added a pink to my tank and a brown snuck in there. Shouldn't make an impact on the gene pool, though.

Red rams sound cool though.

stevencaller 01-12-2013 09:31 AM

ramshorn snails can be a menace as they are prone to dying off for no good reason. I would suggest an assassin snail. Certainly not any chemical treatments with shrimp also present in your tank.


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