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pandamonium 01-01-2013 03:47 AM

shrimp coloration and breeding
 
I bought some orange neos from a local seller and I found that one of the orange neos I bought was actually yellow. I found 2 threads on here saying that most of the time neos that breed will go wild type but orange and yellow neos just vary slightly in color (between orange and yellow somehow). Is there a reason for this? (genetics or it just happens, etc)

Also, some of the orange neos are striped-ish, not fully orange yet. Does shrimp color develop over time? The ones in my tank that are orange are like mini Sunkists running about.

Thanks :)

Bananariot 01-01-2013 05:53 AM

Shrimp color do indeed develop over time. You will notice like in pfr's the red becomes more solid over age. Also colors will darken due to many things.....like dark color substrates will make shrimp darker colored.

Also.......oranges will be yellow at times......the colors will vary for oranges.

pandamonium 01-01-2013 06:21 AM

Ok cuz these oranges almost look like rili shrimp ish? Colored in some parts and clear on others. But I am hoping its just maturity. They don't act differently in my tank much. They forage a lot but don't even touch the food I bought. Strange but they are all eating and all alive. Digging out the crud on my sponge filter like its caviar, which I guess is good for me. though the expensive shrimp food kinda sits...

Bananariot 01-01-2013 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pandamonium (Post 2136892)
Ok cuz these oranges almost look like rili shrimp ish? Colored in some parts and clear on others. But I am hoping its just maturity. They don't act differently in my tank much. They forage a lot but don't even touch the food I bought. Strange but they are all eating and all alive. Digging out the crud on my sponge filter like its caviar, which I guess is good for me. though the expensive shrimp food kinda sits...

Hmm remember I told you my shirakura just sits there as no one ever eats them. yeah shrimp aren't very considerate of how much you spend. Annoying really lol.

If you're talking about shrimp that are about ----- long then yeah they'll solidify as they grow up. If not, you have rili colored which do exist. And they are also more expensive than regular oranges :proud:

pandamonium 01-01-2013 08:31 AM

They waste my money so I am inclined to go blanched spinach or something. As of now they just eat all the junk in the tank, which makes me wonder if they are comfortable or not. They are rarely hiding, even though there are hiding spots around. I guess they aren't foodie kinda shrimp.

Then I scored me a deal lol :) but I like the solid orange ones better. I can find them in my tank which has almost finally been completed. The ones that are kinda rili colored are slightly smaller if not that size. Maybe 1 or 2 that are bigger but my question is will they breed that way or will it be solid?

Also looking to get a breeding experiment going on with my tigers. See if that blonde tiger really can hold OEBT genes...

GreenBliss 01-01-2013 01:12 PM

Yellow and Orange neos wont make brown offspring if bred together?

Soothing Shrimp 01-01-2013 03:48 PM

According to one experiment on here, yellow x orange = yellows and oranges.

The reasoning seems to be yellows and oranges are so close in pigment color.

pandamonium 01-01-2013 11:21 PM

That's what I thought too GreenBliss but apparently they produce some kinda or orange to yellow offspring. Which I guess is a good thing since I can have a few more colors in the tank.

And thanks Soothing Shrimp. That does make sense genetically as well since the pigments are probably not too far off from each other. Now if they taught that in my genetics class instead of calico cats...you can bet I would have absorbed a lot more!

Anyone know how tiger breeding works? I have been interested in red tigers but 2 problems 1) I can't find any and 2) I have some regular tigers, not sure if the reds and regulars will breed and create other variations? Both are wild type (regulars are wild and the red stripes as also wild) so not sure what would happen? Anyone know?

Bananariot 01-02-2013 01:32 AM

You'll get a mix of red and reg tigers. Ive done it before. The reds are very very delicate....so good luck with that lol

pandamonium 01-02-2013 02:18 AM

So I've heard. I think that is not as much an issue as finding them though. Literally no one has them and if they do I don't think I have the money to buy. This build I am doing so far has cost me under $150 but if I want to eat next semester I will have to skimp.

I read that they will almost mix. It's strange how caridina species will mix almost like incomplete dominance but neocaridina is standard genetics like dominant masks recessive. Personal opinion is genetics should stop looking at peas and fruit flies and start looking at shrimp lol


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