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james0816 12-29-2012 10:43 PM

New Tiger Shrimp Morph - White/Ghost Tiger Orange Eyes
 
Changed substrates in my Tangerine Tiger tank the other day. Today while replanting, I found a very interesting guy roaming around. His body is clear to a white color and his eyes are orange.

Grabbed the camera and started shooting. Then I found another one. Same exact size so I'm wondering if these guys are twins.

I'm going through the pics now to see if any turned out ok.

Stay tuned.....

Anyone else find this type of morph with the Tangerines?

GeToChKn 12-29-2012 10:56 PM

Could be stressed from changing substrate and now replanting.

james0816 12-29-2012 10:59 PM

Ok..here we go. These are the best shots I got at the moment. They aren't the greatest unfortunately. They never stop moving. :)

This is a shot of the first guy I found:
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps0f9651b0.jpg

And here are the two together:
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps90a5b8f5.jpg

james0816 12-29-2012 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeToChKn (Post 2132290)
Could be stressed from changing substrate and now replanting.

Definately not stress related. Only two out of hundreds in the tank.

longbeach 12-29-2012 11:57 PM

Interesting, I have one also in with my TT's, it was part of a recent hatch. A friend of mine who bought some TT's from me also found one or 2 in his tank.

Mine have crossed with CRS and are producing Tibees and I thought it might come from the cross but maybe not.... just a colorless shrimp with yellow eyes, and a few small black marks on its sides similar but smaller than the average TT.

pinoyghost2 12-30-2012 01:25 PM

Cool looking shrimps, take em out and try to breed them :thumbsup:

I inadvertently crossed my CBS x TT and what I got is an orange striped/spotted shrimp. I have a lot of them now, as they breed fast....kinda cool looking too. Orange colored Tibee.:)

james0816 12-30-2012 03:22 PM

It's just the eyes. There's something about that white/clear body with those glowing orange eyes. Really kewl and freaky at the same time. :)

Soothing Shrimp 12-30-2012 03:52 PM

I'm wondering if you could have a true albino. A simple breeding between two "whites" may prove it, if they breed true... and it is a simple recessive.

ravensgate 12-30-2012 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soothing Shrimp (Post 2133576)
I'm wondering if you could have a true albino. A simple breeding between two "whites" may prove it, if they breed true... and it is a simple recessive.

But I'm curious as to the eye color if it were true albino. For many years people thought albino horses existed and now we know that's not true and it's simply a maximal expression of another pattern. Have their been any true albino shrimp documented? A quick google search isn't really getting me anywhere except pictures of goldens and clear RCS. :redface:

Soothing Shrimp 12-30-2012 06:08 PM

As far as I know, no true albinos have existed in the world of shrimp as of yet- but then again, no real research has been done on albinism in shrimp that I'm aware of.

Some speculation surrounds the color of eye and ocular albinism, but no one has done the data yet.

Technically this would be the anerythristic form of albinism (aka black albino) if this were the case- meaning all yellow and red pigment is not produced. You can see the ghost still has black.

james0816 12-30-2012 06:19 PM

I would love to experiment with this further but with only two, may be a bit difficult. I think they are both males but still a bit early to tell yet.

These guys haven't been crossed with any other Caridinas so finding other test subjects may be tricky.

I sure will be willing to bring in other specimens if other people have any of them.

Soothing Shrimp 12-30-2012 06:45 PM

Nope. Not difficult at all. Just set up a small tank with the male phantoms and female TT's.

They'll mate with each other and then remove the fems after the babies are born. The offspring will mate back to the males and each other and more ghosts will show up- if simple recessive. :)

james0816 12-30-2012 06:45 PM

Here's some better shots from just a few minutes ago:

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps44054e58.jpg

http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps3710e74f.jpg

MABJ 12-30-2012 07:25 PM

Well I love them. I think they're neat as heck.....

Please do try breeding them out.

I thought albinism was able to happen in any organism? Isn't it just a simple genetic mistake that eventually gets passed on?




MABJ's iDevice used for this message :p

ravensgate 12-30-2012 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MABJ (Post 2133904)

I thought albinism was able to happen in any organism? Isn't it just a simple genetic mistake that eventually gets passed on?




MABJ's iDevice used for this message :p

Don't know about everything else but having studied equine genetics for many years, it doesn't exist in horses.

http://www.whitehorseproductions.com/white.html


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