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JEden8 12-24-2012 04:14 PM

Need Shrimp Identified [Pic Heavy]
 
So I just purchased some shrimp from my LFS but want to validate what I purchased. Here's what I've got:

Supposedly Blue Velvet Shrimp:
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps40193fde.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9b9412a8.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps40ade515.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps05d4f340.jpg

Supposedly Yellow Red Stripe Bee's (However there are two types of shrimp in here):
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps03682aa7.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...psc9ff16e5.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...pse2332f14.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...psc797dd07.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5c18c6f3.jpg

Any and all help is greatly appreciated! I have them in separate containers right now until I can validate they can be in my cherry shrimp tank and won't crossbreed. Thanks!

Lukeo85 12-24-2012 05:03 PM

Im not sure what they are but I do know they look badass. I like the yellow stripe. I also would like to know what they are.

msjinkzd 12-24-2012 05:11 PM

caridina spinata are the maroon ones (sulawesi, warm temp, high pH, low hardness), top most look like a rili (neocaridina).

Soothing Shrimp 12-24-2012 05:14 PM

If those are blue velvets, they are missing a lot of blue. Also, I've not seen the dark tail on any of my BV.

And those do look like yellow striped red bees. aka goldflake shrimp if I remember correctly. How much did you pay for them?

msjinkzd 12-24-2012 05:21 PM

i always called them yellow fleck or something like that, i think. I cannot remember the common name.
http://www.crusta-fauna.org/shrimp-i...idina-spinata/

GeToChKn 12-24-2012 05:22 PM

Those are red goldflake shrimp, they are a Sulawesi species, and unless you keep your cherry tank with hard, high ph water and warm temps, they probably won't do too well in there.

Here's so more info on them.

http://www.planetinverts.com/red_goldflake_shrimp.html

ravensgate 12-24-2012 05:37 PM

What a score....wish something around here sold sulawesi shrimp.

JEden8 12-24-2012 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukeo85 (Post 2122548)
Im not sure what they are but I do know they look badass. I like the yellow stripe. I also would like to know what they are.

I agree! That's why I had to get them!

Quote:

Originally Posted by msjinkzd (Post 2122570)
caridina spinata are the maroon ones (sulawesi, warm temp, high pH, low hardness), top most look like a rili (neocaridina).

Thanks! So the maroon ones are identified and confirmed. What about the bright red ones with the yellow stripes? It seems like there are a couple of different kinds in the second group of photos as some have some black spots on the tails and some do not. Any ideas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soothing Shrimp (Post 2122576)
If those are blue velvets, they are missing a lot of blue. Also, I've not seen the dark tail on any of my BV.

And those do look like yellow striped red bees. aka goldflake shrimp if I remember correctly. How much did you pay for them?

I agree with you on them being Blue Velvet as when I looked at the pictures they weren't very blue to me.

I got the "Blue Velvets" for $3.99 each and the Yellow Stripe Red Bees for $4.99 each.

Quote:

Originally Posted by msjinkzd (Post 2122588)
i always called them yellow fleck or something like that, i think. I cannot remember the common name.
http://www.crusta-fauna.org/shrimp-i...idina-spinata/

Thanks for the link! Reading through it when I'm done updating.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeToChKn (Post 2122590)
Those are red goldflake shrimp, they are a Sulawesi species, and unless you keep your cherry tank with hard, high ph water and warm temps, they probably won't do too well in there.

Here's so more info on them.

http://www.planetinverts.com/red_goldflake_shrimp.html

Thanks! I tested the water from the shrimp as I got them directly from the supplier at the store so they were never pulled out of their bags they were transported in from the fish farm they came from. The water tested at 7.4-7.6 PH and my cherry shrimp tank is kept at 7.2. My tap water is 7.6 and I am currently in the process of raising the ph to the 7.4-7.6 range using crushed coral. I'm letting all the water mix in as we speak to re-check the parameters and to get as close of a match of what the shrimp came in to help improve the chances of survival. The tank temp is also kept at 75 F and I just placed a heater in to raise the temp up in the 78 F range. When reading through the information provided by both you and msjinkzd it mentioned that these shrimp are a little hardier than most Sulawesi species. Fingers are crossed though! Just trying to match the water conditions they are accustomed to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravensgate (Post 2122618)
What a score....wish something around here sold sulawesi shrimp.

He was supposed to get Tiger's in for me today but was unable to get any on short notice :icon_frow. Still love what I got though!

JEden8 12-24-2012 07:47 PM

Think these match the blue ones I have?

http://www.eliteinverts.com/blue-rili-shrimp/

wicca27 12-24-2012 08:05 PM

blue velvets came from rili shirmp so some will have red on them some wont. i have had a couple get blue pigment instead of red from my rili but almost all my red rili now look like blue velvets

JEden8 12-24-2012 08:27 PM

So here are my tank parameters after mixing for about 2 hours:

Tank:
PH: 7.4-7.6
KH: 5 degrees
GH: 15 degrees

Water they came in:

PH: 7.6
KH: 2 degrees
GH: 6 degrees

Recommended levels:

PH: 7.6-8.3
KH: Can't find
GH: 2-7

So my question is, how do I lower my GH without lowering my PH?

JEden8 12-25-2012 12:27 AM

Just did a 50% water change with distilled water and dropped the parameters to:

PH: 7.4-7.6
KH: 3 degrees
GH: 8 degrees

JEden8 12-28-2012 12:02 AM

So I accidentally moved some pictures in photobucket not realizing that the link would change for them. Sorry for the missing pics. I thought I'd update with a couple more pics for everyone to see and also have some better pics to try and identify what these "Blue Velvets" really are. Thanks for the help!

"Blue Velvets"....Or are they?
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps65df81df.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps488aa63c.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9d2feb1b.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...psed7fd6fb.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...psdfebd165.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...psc9ed5cd4.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...psa0c55160.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps807f5d9e.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...pse36562c8.jpg

Here are some updated shots of the Red Goldflakes:

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9dd4749d.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...psfac04b9c.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...psada037cc.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps72f4e6a9.jpg

Unfortunately this little one didn't make it :(
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3446ebbd.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0868e3a1.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...psc47ee276.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps25966a8e.jpg

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8c2e658c.jpg

Someone was interested when I first got them...
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...psa0bede90.jpg

Any insight on the top ones is greatly appreciated!

Soothing Shrimp 12-28-2012 12:09 AM

Due to the red pigment, I'd say they are blue rilis.

JEden8 12-28-2012 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soothing Shrimp (Post 2127722)
Due to the red pigment, I'd say they are blue rilis.

Thanks! That's what msjinkzd was thinking as well. Are the ones without the red pigment also blue rilis?


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