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Snowflake311 12-20-2012 06:16 AM

Pentax or nikon ?
 
I was taking photos of a new slow fish and my stupid god awful self cloning crayfish. The crayfish grabbed my brand new fish and tried to eat it. My daughter screams I grab a net with my camera still in hand. So in the heat of the moment my old Olympus E410 touched water. it is now dead. It turns on but does not work right. Its clearly damaged. It's has been a few days and still it's not right. :icon_cry: it was 5 years old. That's old in the digital world.

So it's time for a new dslr. It's down to the pentax k-30 or the Nikon d5100. I have tested out both. They both feel right that's what makes it so hard. The pentax did seem to be set up more to my likening. On paper the k30 is a better camera. I know the new d5200 are about to come out so I can get a good deal on the d5100. That's the only thing really making this hard.

Is the k30 worth the money? Or would I be just as happy with the d5100.

It's $700 vs $550 this includes glass on both. Biggest draw back with the k30 is the lense when in auto setting is loud. Embarrassing loud. The d5100 has been out a while and all the bugs are worked out. I like that.

Seeing that water was the death of my old camera the weather proofing on the k30 might save me a lot of money.

Anyone have any ideas? I know a few of you are big on nikons.


Ps. I did manage to save the fish from the crayfish. The crayfish are to be destroyed. They eat all plants and hunt and kill fish. They are awful. They are taking over the world as an invasive species.

TickleMyElmo 12-20-2012 08:02 AM

Generic soda is pretty good. It sure does taste like soda, has a cool label, carbonated...

But in reality, it just tries to be like the two best sodas around, Coke and Pepsi.

GraphicGr8s 12-20-2012 01:26 PM

Just before the Pentax K-10D came out I was looking to buy Canon's latest and greatest. The body was like 8 grand. So the total system I wanted was about 25-30 grand. Almost stroked the check for it. Then I saw the Pentax. Now I've been a Pentax shooter for over 30 years so I have a lot of equipment for it. The deciding factor for me was that all of my lenses worked (to the extent of the lens) on the Pentax bodies. Still holds true. Sure there are a couple that don't without modification (cutting extra metal on the mount of a Vivitar) but the thing is they ALL get image stabilization. So you ask: "Is Pentax a pro camera?" Well I know of quite a few that shoot pro with it. Ben Kanarek shoots for Vogue with a Pentax to drop just one name. Many of the things that we consider "standard" on SLR's today were pioneered by Pentax. And they have some excellent glass both new and used. Its right up there with the big 2 and in some aspects exceeds them for less cost. Pentax is now owned by Ricoh so they do have money behind them now.
Although I am a Pentax shooter I will say you will not regret either choice. Cameras today are about the same. It's a matter of which you're comfortable holding and using. I prefer the layout of Pentax menus over Nikon's. The stuff I use all the time is right there.

Coke and Pepsi are highly over rated. Just like Mickie D. And none of those are good for you

JoeGREEEN 12-20-2012 02:50 PM

PENTAX

Then and Now for Me.

Started with a K1000 later added ME Super, Pz-70 and Now use K10D

Hey TickleMyElmo why bother with Coke or Pepsi when RC Cola tastes so much better ;)

speedie408 12-20-2012 03:19 PM

Neither! Canon is BEST! :biggrin:

I couldn't resist. lol

GraphicGr8s 12-20-2012 03:38 PM

Canon is like swill.
So are their copiers. Like I told one of their sales guys why I wouldn't put a Canon copier in "Because they suck"

speedie408 12-20-2012 03:44 PM

Don't be JELLY. ;) lol

GraphicGr8s 12-20-2012 04:34 PM

I'm not. Ricoh's Pro 651 makes Canons look like dog poop.

speedie408 12-20-2012 04:46 PM

We're talking cameras bud, not copy machines. lol

I do agree with you though. I hate my Canon copy machine! I liked the old Ricoh that was replaced much better as far as reliability.

houseofcards 12-20-2012 04:52 PM

I would go with a Canon or Nikon since you will find it easier to find lenses, etc. especially on the secondary market. I don't know much about the Nikon you mentioned, but the Canon T3i is about the same price and has a built-in wireless flash transmitter. Comes in really handy.

Snowflake311 12-20-2012 07:05 PM

My husband is saying I should wait for a camera with wifi. The D3200 has a wifi adapter the D5200 is said to have the same. I don't feel I need wifi I want a camera to take great photos.

I think Pentax is going to push nikon and canon to up their game in these next few years. My first SLR was a 1978 Ricoh it took great shots till the shutter broke in 2006. I learned a lot from that camera, it served me well. I have a soft spot in my heart for Ricoh. Seeing that they own Pentax now it could be good.

Also the Pentax K mount has been used for many years so I am sure I can find some nice used lens for the Pentax. The Pentax has In body stabilization So I don't need a lens that has stabilization in it. That is a ++ in my book. seeing that the lens is just lens with no stabilizing they will be cheaper then Nikon that has in lens stabilization.

Canon just does not do it for me. They don't feel right. I know they can take some great photos the set up is just not for me. So they are out.

Pentax is not a lesser brand. Back in the 70s they were the Pepsi. Then well they slacked off the last people that owned them ran them into the ground sadly. There is still hope that they can turn it around and be back on top. Only time will tell.


Here is the review that makes it so hard to decide.
http://bestof2012.allmyfaves.com/vot...e/sortable.com
Check the specs and see what you would want.

reddhawkk 12-20-2012 08:20 PM

I do not know how it would be easier to find lenses for Canon or Nikon particularly on the secondary market as all Pentax K mount lenses will work. That being said I started with a k1000 and now own at least 15 Pentax cameras. I guess I would vote for the Pentax. By the way, I still use the k1000.

houseofcards 12-20-2012 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reddhawkk (Post 2115634)
I do not know how it would be easier to find lenses for Canon or Nikon particularly on the secondary market as all Pentax K mount lenses will work. ...

Not 100% sure what your referring to?

dmagerl 12-20-2012 10:38 PM

Before you chuck that camera in the trash, try warming it up a bit.

First take the battery from camera, then warm your oven up to around 100 degrees F. If the thermostat will go that low, you're all set. Just put that guy in the oven and let it sit for a few hours. If the thermostat wont go that low, you'll have to monitor the temp closely and turn the oven on/off by hand.

Or if you have a gas forced air furnace, just put the camera on top of the furnace, after checking with your hand that it doesnt get all that hot. Let it sit there for a few days. Or even sit the camera directly in front of a heat vent, or on a radiator, anywhere warm but not that warm.

Once all the water has evaporated, it should start working.

Snowflake311 12-20-2012 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmagerl (Post 2115882)
Before you chuck that camera in the trash, try warming it up a bit.

First take the battery from camera, then warm your oven up to around 100 degrees F. If the thermostat will go that low, you're all set. Just put that guy in the oven and let it sit for a few hours. If the thermostat wont go that low, you'll have to monitor the temp closely and turn the oven on/off by hand.

Or if you have a gas forced air furnace, just put the camera on top of the furnace, after checking with your hand that it doesnt get all that hot. Let it sit there for a few days. Or even sit the camera directly in front of a heat vent, or on a radiator, anywhere warm but not that warm.

Once all the water has evaporated, it should start working.

It would be great if that worked. I will give it a try. I had it sitting in rice for 2 days. The weird thing is 24hr after I got it wet I turned it on and took 2 photos. Then left it out to dry more. Then tried it again and its stuck on one setting and the buttons do nothing.

So I think I turned it on too many times. maybe if I just left it off it would have been ok. Seems like from what I read about wet cameras you should not turn them on. oops I turned mine on and off a few times before it was dry. :icon_sad:

I will try the heater thing.


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