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kperera 12-12-2012 02:12 PM

Ludwigia sp. Rubin vs Ludwigia sp. Red
 
What's the difference between Ludwigia sp. Rubin and Ludwigia sp. Red? Which has the larger leaves, and which is more likely to stay red under low light?

h4n 12-12-2012 03:10 PM

Rubin has larger leaves.
But red will give you a better chance of it staying red under low light.

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Seattle_Aquarist 12-12-2012 03:11 PM

Hi kperera,

To the best of my knowledge they are the same plant. The current accepted 'official' name is Ludwigia sp. 'Rubin' but the common name is Ludwigia sp. 'Red'. Many plants have a scientific name and common name such as Pogostemon helferi is many times referred to as 'Downoi'.

Hope this helps!

HybridHerp 12-12-2012 03:17 PM

I used to think they were the same, but then I've seen people selling them differently, so I think there has to be a difference. I feel like a side by side would be very much appreciated.

HD Blazingwolf 12-12-2012 03:38 PM

they are not the same. ludwigia red has been labeled here as rubin

rubin has a more elongated leaf than sp. red. rubin also turns green and survives with less light

ludwigia sp.red with low enough light to change color will basically wither away and die
if its light requirements are met it will be orange, red, or purplish with enough light orange being the lower light levels

Seattle_Aquarist 12-12-2012 03:49 PM

Hi All,

Realizing that the photoperiod, light intensity, and nutrients may impact leave shape and color possibly someone could please provide photos of the two plants growing side by side in the same conditions?

Monster Fish 12-12-2012 04:54 PM

I have both Ludwigia sp Red and Rubin in the same tank growing side by side. The 'red' has turned a deep red while the rubin has turned green ever since I planted it. It stayed light red when I floated it in my other tank. I'll take a pic later tonight when there is no glare from my window.

BriDroid 12-12-2012 06:17 PM

I have some Ludwigia sp Red now. Under low light, it was still red, but more of an orangeish red. Now under my Ray 2, it's growing in dark blood red. I have some Ludwigia Rubin coming in today or tomorrow via the mail.

I was also curious about this, that I why I wanted some Rubin. If there is still interest, I'll post some pics in a few weeks after the Rubin settles in. I'll be mad if they are the same LOL! The guy I'm getting them from told me that the Rubin gets a much deeper red than the sp Red gets. Marketing??

JeffyFunk 12-12-2012 07:12 PM

IME, Ludwigia sp 'Red' will color up more in a greater variety of conditions. Ludwigia sp 'Rubin', although also a colorful plant, will show much a much greater variety in color depending on your tank conditions.

The following links are very informative (although not at all conclusive as, apparently, new ludwigia hybrids are brought to market):

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...er-hybrid.html

http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...-hybrid-2.html

The first link suggests that L. sp. 'Red' is not 'Rubin'. The second link shows a great comparison among several ludwigia species (although sadly not w/ L. sp. 'Rubin')...

Tinanti 12-12-2012 08:11 PM

They are NOT the same plant. The Rubin is much, much larger and has leaves that are usually, but not always, alternate. It may be a hybrid of some kind. Working on that...

The Red is apparently a form of L. palustris that's smaller, opposite-leaved and is very easy to keep red. Rubin can get more of a maroon if conditions are good, but intensity of color between the two can be approximately equal.

DeeJayA1 12-12-2012 08:20 PM

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...IMAG0993-1.jpg

the "rubin" is the shorter, large-leafed red/pinkish plant and "red" is the to the left.

med/high light, co2 and consistent fert dosing.

Seattle_Aquarist 12-12-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeeJayA1 (Post 2107772)
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...IMAG0993-1.jpg

the "rubin" is the shorter, large-leafed red/pinkish plant and "red" is the to the left.

med/high light, co2 and consistent fert dosing.

Hi DeeJayA1,

I certainly agree the one on the left is L. sp 'Red' and the one on the right is certainly different. The L. sp 'Rubin' in your picture looks somewhat like the one pictured at APC although not as reddish, the leaves seem longer, and I cannot quite make out the detail of the leaf placement on the stems.

Thanks for the pic....worth a thousand words!

DeeJayA1 12-12-2012 09:00 PM

a closer look at the 'rubin'

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...l/IMAG0995.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...l/IMAG0994.jpg

Keeping the 'red' as red as it is has never been an issue for me... but the 'rubin' on the other hand, this is as red as I can get it. the underside of the leaves are a deep red, but the tops are what you see... any ideas? and my ludwigia arcuata will only get to an orange/rust color

Lia 12-12-2012 11:18 PM

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I have found that the more light the redder the leaves and the leaves that do not get that much light stay greenish.


This is ludwiga repens (think that is what it is called) in 29 gallon high with two full length 6500k flourescent bulbs.

It grew like weeds with no co2 just 2 gallon weekly water change.

There is some jave fern here and there.

Lia 12-12-2012 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeeJayA1 (Post 2107830)
a closer look at the 'rubin'

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...l/IMAG0995.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...l/IMAG0994.jpg

Keeping the 'red' as red as it is has never been an issue for me... but the 'rubin' on the other hand, this is as red as I can get it. the underside of the leaves are a deep red, but the tops are what you see... any ideas? and my ludwigia arcuata will only get to an orange/rust color


The Rubin is very pretty looks like a flower


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