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Chrisinator 11-11-2012 07:18 PM

"No Clean Aquarium?"
 
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...t?ref=category

Just stumbledupon these: What are your thoughts about it?

BBradbury 11-11-2012 07:44 PM

No Clean Aquarium
 
Hello Chris...

Great, if you prefer small tanks. I have some similar tanks, though a little bit larger. I emerse Chinese Evergreens in my tanks and the land plants keep the water clean.

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wkndracer 11-11-2012 07:59 PM

Do your tanks have the built in UG drain system BBrad?
I think it's a slick idea for the bowl type smaller tanks.
My wife keeps a betta at work and a gift card for that might find a way under the tree in December as a novelty. Thanks for posting!

wendyjo 11-12-2012 04:20 AM

That's too small for a betta no matter how they try to market it. The idea is good, but they need to make it alot bigger.

brainwavepc.com 11-12-2012 09:24 AM

how cruel... half a gallon and its a horrible shape for a fish to live in

Matt1977 11-12-2012 11:08 AM

Ooh that's a bit small for keep a fish happy... Good innovation though.

mistahoo 11-12-2012 11:35 AM

Really cool idea. It would be even better if the tank was a little bigger. I now have an idea I could bum off of for a DIY "No clean" desktop tank.

Chrisinator 11-12-2012 02:20 PM

I'm not really talking about the size of the tank more than the innovation behind it. Would the vacuum that is created cause the bacteria to be removed quickly or would it stay somewhat in the gravel?

TexasCichlid 11-12-2012 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisinator (Post 2075955)
I'm not really talking about the size of the tank more than the innovation behind it. Would the vacuum that is created cause the bacteria to be removed quickly or would it stay somewhat in the gravel?

Bacteria won't matter in a bowl like that. The whole point is to do large ( 75+ or even 100% ), weekly or biweekly water changes for a betta. That being said, I don't think the vacuum affect would be any stronger than a siphon which does not vacuum bacteria off of substrate.

wendyjo 11-12-2012 02:56 PM

Right - bacteria isn't a concern in that set up.

hydrophyte 11-12-2012 03:12 PM

I agree that is too small for a betta, and it also encourages keeping the betta without heat in potentially chilly environments, but it is a fun concept. They sure did well with their funding goal.

Beneficial bacteria are important no matter how large your water changes are. They quickly process the highly toxic ammonia that fish are constantly producing. Most of the nitrifying bacteria that live on gravel and filter media occur as a biofilm that is stuck to the surfaces. Since they are not free-floating, I wouldn't expect a strong flushing like that to affect them much.

Miira 11-12-2012 03:24 PM

Make it bigger and I'd buy one.

DogFish 11-12-2012 03:41 PM

Agreed on the comments about using as a fish tank.

There's also not enough surface area for gas exchange even if the heat issue was resolved.

I do see merit as a shrimp bowl for a office desk top.

DogFish 11-12-2012 03:44 PM

O.K. so who's going to be the 1st forum member to do a DIY Knock Off?

:hihi:

This might be worth buying a glass cutting bit for.

ony 11-12-2012 05:11 PM

+1 way too small for fish. Love it as a desk ornament though, would look great with a couple of my favourite plants. Also is that copper I see on the spout?


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