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inthepacific 11-05-2012 06:53 PM

breeding cherry shrimp
 
hey guys so im new to the shrimp/ breeding stuff. i found a place close to me with really great cherry shrimp. they're super red but they're like $6 per. i also found another place that sells them for like 4 for $5 but the coloration isn't as great. i was wondering what the outcome would be if i got a small batch of super red ones and bred them with the ones with slight coloration. would i be able to have a batch of shrimp with some decent coloration somewhere down the line? i already bought three shrimp one cherry red (f), one that was labeled as fire red (male), and an orange one (f). the orange one slipped into the bag because the lady and i thought it was red but the color changed when i brought it home. also what would happen if i got an orange and a red to breed together? i kind of want a group of orange cherries too. lmk

discusonly 11-05-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by inthepacific (Post 2068398)
hey guys so im new to the shrimp/ breeding stuff. i found a place close to me with really great cherry shrimp. they're super red but they're like $6 per. i also found another place that sells them for like 4 for $5 but the coloration isn't as great. i was wondering what the outcome would be if i got a small batch of super red ones and bred them with the ones with slight coloration. would i be able to have a batch of shrimp with some decent coloration somewhere down the line?


I said shop around a little more. No way would I pay $6 per RCS. the $5 for 4, are they younger? Do you know the water parameters of the one that is cheaper?

Just my .02

GeToChKn 11-05-2012 06:58 PM

It's going to undo all the work on the super red ones that got them super red. Even a few not red males in a population can dull the whole population in a few generations. You're better going for the most red ones you can get and start off with those and cull as they breed.

You can find fire reds for cheaper than $6 a piece in the buy and sell section here.

This is a list of the different grades of cherries and for a few more bucks, I would start off as red as you can.

http://www.aquaticquotient.com/forum...re-Red-Shrimps

inthepacific 11-05-2012 07:12 PM

they were fire reds i believe. their entire body including legs were red. and their cheaper cherries are i believe sakura grade. according to that grading system chart my male is a fire red and my female is a sakura. and the second female is an orange sakura i guess. but thanks for the advice. i think i found a guy who can sell his fire reds for $3 on another site. as for the other store he just had regular cherry grade idk what the water params were but they were in a little container thing he even had a batch of blue ones for $4.

rrastro 11-05-2012 07:28 PM

check out speedie408. he's in CA, too.

KING JAMES 11-05-2012 08:44 PM

What I did when I first got into shrimp (rcs were the first ones) was shop around at a few stores and show up on shipment day and pick out 1 or two of the best. After a few months of that I had a healthy population of decent shrimp. Honestly if you can find a place with that gets large shipments in weekly and sell their shrimp at a close to decent price ($3 for a high quality PFR is not great but not the worst) you should be able to get a few great shrimp in a few weeks. Just learn what day and around what time their shipments come in. I like to buy them out of the bag before they put them in their tank water as that is one less water param change that the shrimp have to deal with.

inthepacific 11-11-2012 03:40 PM

im actually thinking of just getting some really cheap ones to possibly try my luck and learn about them a little first. then probably introduce some painted reds into the tank every so often. i found a place with the wild type of cherries as well. i was thinking it would be super cool to breed those with painted reds and watch the generations grow more and more red.

Bettatail 11-11-2012 05:00 PM

are you in the SF bay area?
if you are, you can either contact speedie408(nick), or buy them from a guy that is selling on cragslist, he is in San Jose as where Nick live.
Last time I bought 20+ shrimps for $1 per, from cragslist, the shrimp looked weak, small and pale but after they shred once in my tank, turned out all completely red.
The craigslist guy told me the shrimp were fire red but not in good environment(outside bare tank), so not looking good. what he said was true since the shrimp went from ugly ducklings to swans in two weeks in the planted tank.

Bandit1200 11-11-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by inthepacific (Post 2074953)
im actually thinking of just getting some really cheap ones to possibly try my luck and learn about them a little first. then probably introduce some painted reds into the tank every so often. i found a place with the wild type of cherries as well. i was thinking it would be super cool to breed those with painted reds and watch the generations grow more and more red.



Breeding wild types with cherries will not get you "more and more red". You will get the opposite actually.

inthepacific 11-11-2012 08:26 PM

yea i guess you read it incompletely or misunderstood. i was going to start with a batch of the wild ones and cherries and over time introduce some fire reds/ painted fire reds. so eventually they would get redder. i would assume it keeps the blood lines fresh. and im not exactly looking for pretty shrimp anyways. its just cool and interesting to me.

and bettatail. i am in the bay area. im actually in sf. would you have any cherries you want to sell? id be willing to buy some off you lmk/ pm me

Computer Science 11-11-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bettatail (Post 2075021)
are you in the SF bay area?
if you are, you can either contact speedie408(nick), or buy them from a guy that is selling on cragslist, he is in San Jose as where Nick live.
Last time I bought 20+ shrimps for $1 per, from cragslist, the shrimp looked weak, small and pale but after they shred once in my tank, turned out all completely red.
The craigslist guy told me the shrimp were fire red but not in good environment(outside bare tank), so not looking good. what he said was true since the shrimp went from ugly ducklings to swans in two weeks in the planted tank.

Hey did you buy from the guy named Doug?

inthepacific 11-11-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Computer Science (Post 2075213)
Hey did you buy from the guy named Doug?

hey i just saw the ad on craigslist and now there is a posting about it being a scam. was that you computer science? what was wrong with the shrimp? the warning said they werent cherry shrimp

Computer Science 11-11-2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by inthepacific (Post 2075232)
hey i just saw the ad on craigslist and now there is a posting about it being a scam. was that you computer science? what was wrong with the shrimp? the warning said they werent cherry shrimp

I bought some fire red cherry shrimp from Doug and he was a pleasure to deal with. I didn't make any scam report. Can I get the link to that? I'm talking about the listing where it has K14s, OEBTs, and Mischling(His name is Doug).

inthepacific 11-12-2012 12:00 AM

heres the warning one:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/for/3401527598.html

and the actaual one:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/for/3396309368.html

im not actually sure what the warning one was talking about. but the post is about cherry shrimp.
but now there are several posts for cherry shrimp for a pretty reasonable price.


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