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jake10 11-04-2012 12:02 AM

How do you ship without breather bags?
 
Can someone help me figure out how to ship without breather bags because at the moment i have none.

Hmoobthor 11-04-2012 12:10 AM

what are trying to ship

Colorful 11-04-2012 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hmoobthor (Post 2066591)
what are trying to ship

I believe he is trying to ship Endlers.

somewhatshocked 11-04-2012 12:42 AM

Breather bags are cheap. Why not buy some from a member here or on one of the auction sites?

Fdsh5 11-04-2012 01:02 AM

I shipped endlers from buffalo to Hawaii in regular 3mil plastic bags. 4 days in the mail and no doas.

PlantedRich 11-04-2012 01:04 AM

Bag Buddies used to be a handy item before the breather bags came into play. You might find some somewhere. Chloram-X is also good to put in the water. The breather bags might be the best way to go.

jake10 11-04-2012 02:59 PM

sorry yes i am hoping to ship endlers but i was hoping to trade for breather bags for fish. and because i have no breather bags at moment i need to find out how to do this successfully. could i just take large ziplock bags pump the bags 50% with air and pack them tight in the insulation? also should i leave the fish alone without food for about 3 days so they dont produce waste in the bag?

altiuscitius 11-05-2012 06:51 AM

Add a few pellets of an ammonia absorbing compound, maybe some activated carbon, to the bag. I know Ive ordered fish in the past and had them come in bags with 5 or 6 black and white pellets in them, and I just assumed thats what that was, I never asked the shipper.

Also the fish produce ammnonia just from breathing, whether fed or not. Maybe go a day or two without feeding just to prevent too much waste, but 3 seems excessive.

stangmus 11-05-2012 06:58 AM

Here's a pretty good article on haw to ship fish.

http://www.angelsplus.com/ArticleBags.htm

PlantedRich 11-05-2012 02:29 PM

No zip-locks! They are certain to fail! Many auctions don't allow them as they so often pop open. In the mail it is certain to happen.
It will take some type of plastic bag that can be tied shut. For bags that are not breather bags add just enough water to let the fish swim easy. They don't need water as much as air. O2 is best but not for the one time shipper. Grip the bag so as much air is trapped as possible, twist the bag top and wrap a rubber band around the twist, fold it over and seal with rubber band again. Stick this bag inside a second bag upside down and seal the second like the first. This gives more protection but the main value is in the way the bag corners are rounded when double bagged. In single bags there are pockets in the corners and fish get in them and die. Pack the bags in a box with lots of insulation. Pad them well to protect from heat and cold as well as cushion them . They WILL be thrown across the room so prep for that. They will likely arrive will box corners smashed and tears in the outside box. Don't leave the plastic bag next to the sides so it gets torn.

That's a primer on bagging but it takes more for the full trip.

jake10 11-06-2012 02:24 AM

thank you everyone for all the help. id rather ask then fail and waste my time and money. thanks so much. now i just need to find a few people that want endlers to trade for some shrimp or bags


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