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drewsuf82 10-31-2012 11:44 PM

Lets see where it goes 10 Gallon
 
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So I have had this tank up and running now for ~5 months and to be honest I haven't been doing anything with it at all. I threw some java moss in there, a java fern, a Buddah and some cheap feeder guppies. Later on I decided that I would put in a moss wall (or attempt) and that's half going half not...

Here is the Before:
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I decided that it was in need of some re-vamping, so I got to work tonight and started removing, trimming, moving, etc.....

Here is the After:

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I took much of the moss on the wood and re-wrapped most of it to the driftwood, I know I want a really mossed out piece and filled in some empty spots.

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When I trimmed the wall, I had enough left that I thought was worth salvaging to start a moss rock, I plan on having some more rocks to create small hiding places soon.

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Moss Wall after the trim, I may need to re-work/plan if I want to keep a wall in here.

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Tank Specs
10 Gallon
Whisper HOB 15 Gallon rated filter (with SS mesh for inlet)
15W T8 Bulb
Air Stone (more than likely coming out)
Using API Co2 booster until I can work out a CO2 setup (gotta save some pennies)

Plants Currently in Tank
Java Moss
Java Fern

Animals currently in tank
~20 feeder guppies (they will be coming out soon)
~10 ghost shrimp

Future Plans
Re-scaping
DIY or Paintball CO2
Working on Moss Wall to get it to fill in
Removal of guppies

I think this will be my first foray into shrimp once I get the guppies out, I will start with ghosties (since they are so cheap) and if I can get a colony of them going (yes I know the confines are small) it will help me figure out my plans for my next tank which I am in the planning stages and would love to do planted/shrimp in.

Let me know what you think, I will be reserving the next few posts to help keep things organized I do like adding pictures :)

drewsuf82 10-31-2012 11:45 PM

Starting Phase Two
 
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So I decided to get a bit of work done tonight since I had some time (which I should of been spending working on a webpage for class :icon_cry: ) Anyway I got a few things in that I wanted to get to work on since I had been soaking for ph test for quite a while now

Anyway here's the update for 11/7/12

Things Added
  • Added some Natural Rocks
  • Continuing usage of API CO2 Booster, however I think from this bottle on in this tank I will be using excel
  • New Media (whew those guppies did a number on this tank)
  • They aren't added yet but one or two bristle noses will be coming to this tank, they have a nice cave home ready for them :)

Things Removed
  • Guppies - YUP Tank is happily cycled showing good levels and is ready to move on! No more guppies in here (well except maybe 2 or 3 babies that eluded capture, boy they swim fast even in an empty tank)
  • Completed a substrate vaccum - Getting ready to swap substrate to a darker substrate for shrimp at some point soon

And now for the Money Shot --well if you can call it that :)
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Onward to Phase Three:

Well it's been a busy day and with shrimp on the way I had to up my game and get things done quick!

Things Removed:
  • White Substrate
  • Moss Wall Attempt (this is where I was getting some Spikes, the inside was all brown and soupy UGH)
  • ~10 Ghost Shrimp (xfered to my 55 gallon)
  • 4 Baby Guppies (xfered to my 55 gallon only 3 made it one jumped out of the cup onto the carpet and after spending 5 minutes looking for it may he/she RIP

Things Added:
  • EcoComplete Substrate
  • Corkscrew Vals
  • Black Background

Things On the Way:
  • PFR Shrimps :)
  • Cholla Wood

During the substrate change I saved approx 50% of the old water and the filter media hoping with the ecocomplete that it will adjust to normal quickly since all I did was swap substrate

So here's todays picture updates:

Changing the Substrate:
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Waiting for the cloudyness to disappear:
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Here's hoping it takes off and does well I'm excited for where this tank is going! :bounce:

drewsuf82 10-31-2012 11:46 PM

reserved 3

GMYukonon24s 11-01-2012 06:47 PM

Nice startup

chinachilla 11-01-2012 09:33 PM

Oh, it looks like we are going the same direction with attempting a low-light moss wall! I look forward to the updates on how it fills out.

But I think that moss walls usually tend to grow out instead of across (in between the mesh). You best bet would be to trim it back periodically, and then maybe insert the clippings into the mesh to try to spread it out more evenly if you want a thick wall, rather than just growing out into the tank.

I might be wrong, though. Honestly, I am just starting myself.

aquariumcentral 11-02-2012 06:28 PM

Hey man the problem with your moss wall is that you are using java moss.
There are a lot of better types of moss that would be better suited for this application. Maybe try fissidens moss it's worked good for me in the past.

drewsuf82 11-07-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinachilla (Post 2064374)
But I think that moss walls usually tend to grow out instead of across (in between the mesh). You best bet would be to trim it back periodically, and then maybe insert the clippings into the mesh to try to spread it out more evenly if you want a thick wall, rather than just growing out into the tank.

Hi Chinachilla! I am contemplating doing a bit of a rebuild on the moss wall as I am not satisfied with the mesh that is currently in place, I may also be removing it and trying some other things with it, this is my sort of experiment tank :eek5:

If not I know that I will be starting to look at a moss wall on a larger scale in a 20L that I am looking at building, I am just messing around trying to get some mechanics down atm but I def will keep updates coming :)

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Originally Posted by aquariumcentral (Post 2065350)
Hey man the problem with your moss wall is that you are using java moss.
There are a lot of better types of moss that would be better suited for this application. Maybe try fissidens moss it's worked good for me in the past.

Aquarium - yea I have been looking into that, when I first started this moss wall a few months back and stuffed it full I was kinda just messing around with the entire planted tank push, I have been getting much more into it since xD I have been getting a very soft spot for Fissidens and am really planning on dropping it into my next tank any idea on how long it takes to fill out ?

Added this weeks shot and starting transition to phase two of my plan

drewsuf82 11-14-2012 09:48 PM

Updated for phase 3

Comments / Suggestions welcome :)

AMKZ 11-14-2012 11:15 PM

looks good :) I think i want to start growing moss in my tank...is it a slow grower?

drewsuf82 11-14-2012 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AMKZ (Post 2078860)
looks good :) I think i want to start growing moss in my tank...is it a slow grower?

Thanks! It all depends on the tank and the setup you have. This is a low tech tank with very light water column ferts (once a week the day after a change) and no CO2 injection so in this tank Java moss grows slowly (but still grows ok in there)

In my 55 Gallon tank with high light/injected CO2 I am trimming my xmas moss about once a month and tying it down somewhere else.

It all depends on your setup :)

drewsuf82 11-18-2012 01:42 PM

And the shrimping begins :)

Update 11/14/2012
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Already making friends with the bristlenoses :)

Update 11/24/12
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Boy these guys are getting red :) -- Sorry iphone focus fail

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They are enjoying the new moss and it appears to be starting to green up that makes me a happy camper

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Full Tank Shot

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GMYukonon24s 11-20-2012 01:03 PM

Oh nice shrimp

drewsuf82 11-20-2012 05:15 PM

Thanks! They sure are active and fun to watch

GMYukonon24s 11-20-2012 06:33 PM

Your welcome. Ya they definitely are fun to watch.

drewsuf82 11-25-2012 03:02 AM

They're doing well, several have been molting lately and I'm seeing some good coloration starting, IDK if I have lost any it's hard to get a count on them and they hide really well, I do need to get a good trim done on some of the leaves that weren't happy

Updated to current pictures...and I totally just realized that I missed a plant stem up behind the filter >< LOL


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