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Gamezawy 10-16-2012 01:04 PM

early shrimp delivery Tank is not ready what to do ?
 
hi all

i am in my way to make shrimp only tank i have ordered the tank and the shrimps but shrimps arrived early so now i have that problem there is shrimps and there are no tank

what i can do ? well the place to keep the shrimps is not the problem i have a temporary place lets say an old tank but the problem is the water

my question is can i use a water from already cycled planted tank with balloon molys and some plants of i will use the water only without the fish ?

acitydweller 10-16-2012 01:07 PM

get a large container and run an airstone. If your ambient temps drop below 60, add a heater. If you can drop in a seeded filter, even better.

Fortunately, Shrimp have very little bioload but they still feed on bacteria in the tank. Water from an established tank will carry bacteria. siphon only from the top of the tank.

Gamezawy 10-16-2012 01:45 PM

Fortunately, Shrimp have very little bioload but they still feed on bacteria in the tank.

sorry but what do u mean

Water from an established tank will carry bacteria. siphon only from the top of the tank

do you mean that bacteria are bad for the shrimps or i misunderstood ?

acitydweller 10-16-2012 01:57 PM

Shrimp by themselves will not create a rapid ammonia spike that fish normally would but they also cannot survive in pure water by itself.

The act of seeding the tank means bringing bacteria from an established tank to the container where your shrimp will be. This means transplanting water, plants and filter media. If you drain the water from the established tank, take the water from the top and not the bottom where the waste is.

You neglected to specify the type of shrimp involved so any answers provided would be generic and limited at best.

Gamezawy 10-16-2012 02:07 PM

Thank you very much acitydweller

And sorry i didn't mention shrimps kind well they are 10x Sakura Red Shrimp

Nubster 10-16-2012 02:57 PM

Like stated already, bucket with an airstone or sponge filter, throw some moss in there too if you have it (or other plants since you have an established planted tank) so they can hide and eat biofilm and you may need to feed them a little bit if they are going to be in there a while. Tank water should be fine. Tap water is too as long as there's no nasties in it and you dechlorinate if you are on city water.

Steveboos 10-16-2012 03:09 PM

I agree with the above. This is not a good situation at all, this is why in the future, always have the tank up and cycled before ordering the shrimp. But for now, try and stuff the temporary tank with floating plants and fast growing plants and use some tank water and you should be ok till you can get the new tank setup. Just test the water on the temporary tank often to make sure Nitrate doesn't get too high.

Soothing Shrimp 10-16-2012 03:37 PM

Great advice folks! Let me add if you have object or plants from another running tank, grab a few and place them in the new tank. They already have biofilm growing on them.

pejerrey 10-16-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steveboos (Post 2045310)
I agree with the above. This is not a good situation at all, this is why in the future, always have the tank up and cycled before ordering the shrimp. But for now, try and stuff the temporary tank with floating plants and fast growing plants and use some tank water and you should be ok till you can get the new tank setup. Just test the water on the temporary tank often to make sure Nitrate doesn't get too high.

Sorry to disagree with the nitrate thing.:)

No3 is not really harmful to them, is the nh4 and no2 that came before no3 what is poisonous. So test for nh4(ammonia) and no2(nitrite), because if there is no readings for no3 yet but there is ammonia and nitrite then the water is no good.
No3 is at the end of the cycle. We really need to be careful with the previous nitrogen compounds.

This is why people can keep shrimp with more than 150ppm of no3 from ferts. If that was coming from ammonia and nitrate then it would be toxic, not the no3 but the previous nitro compounds.

Anyhow, my point is: testing for no3 in a non cycled mass of water is not enough as a preventive measure. :)

Based on:

Shrimp and no3
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=160205

Nitrates, how high is too high?
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=72507

What is a safe range of nitrates for CRS/CBS: (this thread has more conclusive info)
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=125445

Similar to the posts above:
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=44307

Gamezawy 10-16-2012 10:50 PM

Really thank you all for the inputs

well i got the shrimps and they are in the temp tank with some plants and water from a running tank and air stone will be add

but there is one thing i have found pregnant females and many baby shrimp in the bag with the big ones so is there is any advise ?

james1542 10-16-2012 11:29 PM

You could purchase or construct a net breeder and place that in your established tank, and put the shrimp in there until the new tank is cycled (at least 1 month). This way might be less work than monitoring a bucket full of shirmp around the clock. The babies and adults need food, if they are in an established tank they can pick on the algae and biofilm. However, they will eat just about anything, just keep it in moderation.


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