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SupaTank 10-09-2012 07:03 PM

HELP !!!! What are these things!!
 
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I have been finding this in my tank & i think it the cause of all my missing Crystal shrimps. I don't know what it is, at first i thought it was planaria, but now i am thinking it might be leeches or worms? please help, i just started the hobby 4mth back and it has been very discouraging. So far this is my 2nd batch of crystals, the first batch all vanish; I am down to only 7 crs left from 21.Attachment 55054

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sunyang730 10-09-2012 07:10 PM

Do you have a picture?

SupaTank 10-09-2012 07:12 PM

Yeah i just uploaded some on top, let me know if you have any problem seeing it

sarahspins 10-09-2012 07:14 PM

Planaria.

sunyang730 10-09-2012 07:19 PM

Gosh, that is a big worm! Personally you shouldn't care what kind it is but to redo your tank. I heard from another member that using the worm killer for dogs in a very small amount work. Or, just redo the whole tank. I thought Planaria should be white?

ValMM 10-09-2012 07:23 PM

You can tell if it's a planaria if it has 2 eyespots, and usually a triangular shaped head. Leeches have a skinny head, with a sucker type mouth and large rear end, with a sucker to hold onto things.

SupaTank 10-10-2012 12:26 AM

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From all the pictures online, I don't think they are planarias. Like ValMM stated, planarias have 2 eyes and a arrow-like head. The one in my pictures have no visible eyes & a rounded head. I assumed it was a planaria at first by the way it moves. Thats why I dosed my tank (& the one on top individually) with the dog dewormer "Safeguard Canine" that has the active ingredient 22.2% fenbendazole, but the dang thing just swam back and forth like nothing!?. Isn't it supposed to kill them right away? I've read this is the safe route when it comes to having shrimps/planted tank. i don't think it a leech either, what do you guys think?



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SupaTank 10-10-2012 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sunyang730 (Post 2037865)
Gosh, that is a big worm! Personally you shouldn't care what kind it is but to redo your tank. I heard from another member that using the worm killer for dogs in a very small amount work. Or, just redo the whole tank. I thought Planaria should be white?

Lolz, that would be a lot of work to redo my tank, especially since it a dirt tank.

MSG 10-10-2012 12:50 AM

Crystals are harder to keep alive. I wouldn't have started off with a batch of crystals.

Planaria glide around when they move.

Leeches move a little bit like caterpillars. Do you have any critters that might snack on them?

Take a short video on how the little worm thing moves.

Higher Thinking 10-10-2012 12:58 AM

I agree that if you just started in the hobby you should not have chosen CRS. Not only that but your tank should be running for a few months before you add such sensitive hosts. I'm not talking just cycling, but a fully developed and established tank is one that has been going for much more than a month or so.

SupaTank 10-10-2012 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MSG (Post 2038235)
Crystals are harder to keep alive. I wouldn't have started off with a batch of crystals.

Planaria glide around when they move.

Leeches move a little bit like caterpillars. Do you have any critters that might snack on them?

Take a short video on how the little worm thing moves.



These things are like freaking ninjas when it comes to hiding, but I definitely will whenever i spot another one (they usually are out when the light are off).

SupaTank 10-10-2012 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Higher Thinking (Post 2038245)
I agree that if you just started in the hobby you should not have chosen CRS. Not only that but your tank should be running for a few months before you add such sensitive hosts. I'm not talking just cycling, but a fully developed and established tank is one that has been going for much more than a month or so.




The tank has been established for over 3 yrs with fish in it. I turned it into a planted tank 4 months back with Red cherries and only recently introduced crs. That's why i don't think its my tank that's the problem and concluded it was that planaria looking things.

dapi 10-10-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SupaTank (Post 2038386)
The tank has been established for over 3 yrs with fish in it. I turned it into a planted tank 4 months back with Red cherries and only recently introduced crs. That's why i don't think its my tank that's the problem and concluded it was that planaria looking things.

IME combining the 2 is a bad thing. The Red Cherry Shrimp are more aggressive when going after food and won't hesitate to knock the smaller CRS.

I have both species but take care not to put them in the same tank.
RCS will survive in any tank as long as there are lots of hiding places and sufficient plant cover.

CRS need good water conditions, hiding places and shrimp friendly tankmates to survive.

Pink_Hat 10-10-2012 07:23 PM

Those are exactly what are in my tank. I can't figure out what they are either. I don't think they are planaria. The head is wrong. I don't have many, but am going to do a big vacuum today and see if it helps. If I figure it out I'll post again.

SupaTank 10-10-2012 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pink_Hat (Post 2039089)
Those are exactly what are in my tank. I can't figure out what they are either. I don't think they are planaria. The head is wrong. I don't have many, but am going to do a big vacuum today and see if it helps. If I figure it out I'll post again.

You should post a video so everyone can check out what we are talking about. I would, but my tank is pretty heavily planted so it hard to spot any.


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