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Unkillable Cat 09-24-2012 10:54 PM

Unkillable's 1 gallon bowl (updated 10/10/12)
 
Its been coming long enough and I'm finally at a point where I'm happy with what I've made. Version one was a learning curve. I made pretty much every mistake I could along the way from flooding before I added a sand cap, which is why I have so much soil above the sand, to plants I realized would outgrow the bowl in no time.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8450/8...f65eff6ee8.jpg

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Learning (enough) from the first try I grabbed some lower growing plants, and darker substrate, capped before flooding and now have version 2:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8451/8...d966e67564.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8177/8...2cf9a8d5d9.jpg

I'm assuming the bubbles are whats referred to as pearling? which is odd as I don't have any Co2 in there

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8321/8...7bdb547d7b.jpg

Plants: Mini Christmas and weeping moss, dwarf sag and hair grass, star grass, and pearl weed.

Merth 09-25-2012 12:59 AM

Nice

Unkillable Cat 09-25-2012 04:02 PM

Thank you!

I'm going to fish out the rouge bits of solid that escaped while I was planting tonight, and add a few shrimp towards the end of the week, everything seems to be growing now so now that the risk of melting is gone it should be safe.

Will start with a breeding pair and see how it goes

GMYukonon24s 09-25-2012 04:36 PM

That's a beautiful bowl

Newman 09-25-2012 04:50 PM

looks nice second time around!

now if the shrimp dont work out right away, dont give up. give the bowl a month and then try adding shrimp again.

Unkillable Cat 09-25-2012 05:10 PM

Thanks guys, it's one of those things that looked simple, and probably should have been but turned out to be a fair bit of work lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newman (Post 2022689)
looks nice second time around!

now if the shrimp dont work out right away, dont give up. give to bowl a month and then try adding shrimp again.

Thanks Newman, as a veteran of these I will definately keep what what you say in mind.

I'm also experimenting with a cube in natural light, but it's not working outtoo well, will let the bowl grow in a bit more and see what does well in the small environment and then take cuttings from the main tank.

Knotyoureality 09-25-2012 05:19 PM

Looks great--will be fun seeing how it matures. :)

I just started set up on a mini-bowl myself with dirt/sand cap. Will be interesting to see how the plants respond compared to the non-nutrient bearing fluorite I usually use. If it sets off much higher growth rates, I suspect the regular plants I'm used to using will have to replaced by smaller varieties.

Unkillable Cat 09-25-2012 07:01 PM

With the plants definately go for slower or shorter growers. Version 1 had wisteria in it when I was thinking of plants that would out compete algae, in my main sand only tank it would gain about 2 inches a month, which I figured was easy to keep up with trimming wise. In soil it gained roughly that in 4 days. I only planted short off cuts that came up about half way up the bowl. By the end of the week it was breaching the rim.

Also as you go avoid the stupid mistakes I made, such as using a turkey baster to retrieve floaters, and forgetting to prime it out of the water. Or the one I made a few nights ago changing the water, I used an air hose to refill the water to avoid blasting the sand cap, got distracted watching tv and pointed it straight down, yet another soil fountain lol.

Unkillable Cat 09-28-2012 11:46 AM

Knowing that there may be losses, rather than add the adults as I was planning I popped 5 juvenile (10mm ish) cherries in there last night. Had 2 losses and one isn't looking his best, so did a 50% water change this morning, will do another tonight and reassess it tomorrow.

The plants after doing well for the past couple of weeks have taken a slight turn. The star grass is browning a little, and the pearl weed has decided that staying planted is not for them. Moss is doing well though, as is the dwarf sag and the one that looks like a pea plant (can't remember what it is)

SpecGrrl 09-28-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkillable Cat (Post 2025705)
Knowing that there may be losses, rather than add the adults as I was planning I popped 5 juvenile (10mm ish) cherries in there last night. Had 2 losses and one isn't looking his best, so did a 50% water change this morning, will do another tonight and reassess it tomorrow.

The plants after doing well for the past couple of weeks have taken a slight turn. The star grass is browning a little, and the pearl weed has decided that staying planted is not for them. Moss is doing well though, as is the dwarf sag and the one that looks like a pea plant (can't remember what it is)

Do you test your water params?

It would likely reduce deaths.

Unkillable Cat 09-28-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecGrrl (Post 2025771)
Do you test your water params?

It would likely reduce deaths.

My test kit is due for a refill, at the moment so I can only test for nitrites and ammonia, which were both showing as fine. I found a pot of test strips that came with my last order of dechlorinator (i know they border on useless) which test for Nitrate and it was showing 5 (ish) which is roughly what my tap puts out anyway.

They had a 2 hour acclimation too, all I can conclude is possible stress from being netted out of the big tank

Unkillable Cat 09-29-2012 09:26 PM

The sickly looking shrimplet perked up over night, and checking the dead ones it looked to be failed molts. The remaining shrimp have coloured up nicely, and are active. If they keep up that way I will add a few more on monday to bring the number up to 10 until they get established.

Once they grow a little I will leave a couple of breeding pairs in there and see how it goes.

Unkillable Cat 10-10-2012 10:23 PM

The growth seems to have taken of better than I expected. the Dwarf sag is the big surprise, its reached 3-4 times the size of the plants I have in my larger tank.

I ended up being a little more cautious with my shrimp load, and the total number in there is 6 at the moment, all low grade, but once they get big enough to survive the main tank I will switch them out with some higher grade babies:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8471/8...39b1bee304.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8325/8...2e375078d8.jpg


Proof of (low resolution) life

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8050/8...64ab4e65ea.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8190/8...8766b3c1da.jpg

Newman 10-10-2012 10:51 PM

nice =D


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