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cantsay39 08-03-2012 05:40 AM

My Shrimp days (long)
 
I started out with 20 rcs , 4 ghost shrimps on a 10 gallons only shrimp tank with Regular substrates you would see in petco, and 4 little ottos. I did fish keeping in the past but it wasn't much disappointing because they rarely die, my first load of rcs half of the population died. Even I did much reading and research but still no clue what was the issue of unknown death. Hey I thought i was prepared with the sponge filter and some air rock running behind with some moss, later I found out that it was the ghost shrimps that are picking on my rcs, actually I am very generous with them when it comes to food already, yet they destroying the population of my rcs, so i bought another tank 8 gallon tank from Hagen "Fluval Flora tank" that came with a co2, which I did a switch with the store keeper to have the shrimp stratum instead of the plant stratum that came with it. I did some research that after a day or two you can just drop the shrimps into the tank and it's safe, so i removed the ghost shrimps and put them in there, within a week all of the ghost shrimps died off unknown reasons. So I just let it run for a week without any shrimps.

Meanwhile, since my rcs are doing good after I removed the ghost shrimps, I wanted to try something much more expensive shrimps like crs. Therefore I bought a S class crs from the store at the cost of 10$. Fascinated by it's color but I wanted to be safe first, because the ghost shrimps died off at the 8.8 gallon tank, so I kept it in the 10 gallon and watching its progress over a week. Thank God it was doing fine, and that is when my money spending days came,I bought 5 crs, 5 cbs, 10 red rillis, 10 blue pearls. I kept those crs and cbs at the 10 gallon tank. I made a big mistake added crush corals to increased the ph for the rcs with the taiwan bees. Point 1. the shrimps can adapt from hard water to soft water parameters, so if it's the other way around which is a nono. Point 2, the substrates i used has no additive and i didn't aware the importance of it until they died off one by one.

The 10 Rillis and 10 blue pearls are doing fine in the fluval tanks, which later i added around 20 crs, and 10 blue bee shrimps and so far had some casualties because they are unable to molt, which i spend even more for additive that are coming in soon to remedy these deaths. In addition, my 8.8 gallon tank population are growing and the berried shrimps had released all the babies at the breeder box. what's more i am interested in breeding unique shrimps, so I got myself a 20 gallon tank, which i cycled for 3 weeks with the U.P. Shrimp sands, canister filter, and today i just added tons of crs,cbs, and golden bees into the tank, while crossing fingers hoping miracle would happened.

The way I changed my water, I add tap water to the 1 gallon Poland spring containers, with Aqua safe, and shirakura mineral additive to the water and leave it out until it's time to have water changed.

Attention: Never put bare hands to move anything in the tanks, because will cause death~

molting issue, that happened recently which gave me a headache until i replace my tds meters im stuck with guessing.
Solution 1.
You'll need to either add calcium to their diet or calcium clay into the tank directly. I do both and haven't had any failed molting problems since. This applies to both neos and caridinas. by acitydweller

Tank 1 10 gallon ph 6.6 ph dropped due to co2, normally it is at 6.8 tds meter broke down..
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Tank 2 8.8 gallon ph 6.4 no co2 in this tank
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Tank 3 20 gallon ph 5.8 co2 with bubble counter 1 bubble 20 secs
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acitydweller 08-03-2012 10:54 AM

Live and learn... What sort of bubble counter are u using itank 3?

Glad to see you have finally mastered neos and caridinas. Invertrbrates require calcium dietary supplements to strengthen their shells for proper molting. What is your water change routine?

Hope to see you in out next meet in les.

diwu13 08-03-2012 03:01 PM

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The way I changed my water, I add tap water to the 1 gallon Poland spring containers, with Aqua safe, and shirakura mineral additive to the water and leave it out until it's time to have water changed.
Have you measured your tap parameters before deciding to add mineral supplements to it? Most of us have higher TDS (including GH and KH) water, and actually have to use RO/DI to lower it.

cantsay39 08-03-2012 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by acitydweller (Post 1966413)
Live and learn... What sort of bubble counter are u using itank 3?

Glad to see you have finally mastered neos and caridinas. Invertrbrates require calcium dietary supplements to strengthen their shells for proper molting. What is your water change routine?

Hope to see you in out next meet in les.

Every thursday i do water change, which is better that way. People say every 3 days, but I believe water change can be every week, as long don't overfeed and plus feed it through a petri dish.

cantsay39 08-03-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by diwu13 (Post 1966540)
Have you measured your tap parameters before deciding to add mineral supplements to it? Most of us have higher TDS (including GH and KH) water, and actually have to use RO/DI to lower it.

The water conditions are pretty good at Nyc, with ph around 6.9 to 7.0. The water are from Catskill Mountain.

cantsay39 08-04-2012 08:56 AM

Did threw in some red ramshorn to check in on the water conditions 2nd week of cycling they were floating dead in a day..even with canister

Shrimpaholic 08-04-2012 06:20 PM

Mass die offs like this sounds like uncycled tanks. What are your nitrite/nitrate readings? If amonia is present then gg.

cantsay39 08-04-2012 06:21 PM

just one or two not on the massive of the shrimps died off

cantsay39 08-26-2012 05:13 AM

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cantsay39 08-26-2012 05:19 AM

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newly added oebts

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sayurasem 08-26-2012 05:49 AM

Is that Yubao substrate?

deleted_user_17 08-26-2012 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cantsay39 (Post 1966302)
today i just added tons of crs,cbs, and golden bees into the tank, while crossing fingers hoping miracle would happened.

Haha, hope you get some interesting shrimp! :)

cantsay39 08-26-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sayurasem (Post 1991640)
Is that Yubao substrate?

the one where i put the oebt is reg substrate, while in the crs tank i use U P shrimp sand.

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Nubster 08-26-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by acitydweller (Post 1966413)
Invertrbrates require calcium dietary supplements to strengthen their shells for proper molting.

What do you use/recommend?

cantsay39 09-07-2012 05:56 PM

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They are healthy and berried, waiting for the babies.....


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