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fattboa 07-19-2012 10:26 PM

Plant ID - Botanists are welcomed
 
UPDATE
Instead of making a new thread thought about updating this one.
Need help with a few of these because as usual sellers here only know the price. Sorry about the bad/large photographs.
Also, the red plants seem to be turning green. Some pre-existing leaves are turning green the new growth. Anyone knows why? They have been under 1watt/gallon light. Is that a factor?
http://s14.postimage.org/v8ebzg9oh/IMG_4284.jpg
http://s14.postimage.org/j7svyq29t/IMG_4288.jpg
The red/burgundy one in the middle. I suspect its not aquatic.
http://s14.postimage.org/hh9ux8kqp/IMG_4289.jpg
Red one in the middle. Looks like red baby tears? New leaves are green.
http://s14.postimage.org/c74w5y0ht/IMG_4291.jpg
One in the middle. Definitely a stem plant.
http://s14.postimage.org/nkrfh5b0h/IMG_4300.jpg
Fine leaved one. Underside of leaves is a little reddish.
Btw regarding my previous concerns about the baby tears, boy was I wrong. I sort of abandoned the aquarium for a few months with no fertilizers whatsoever except from the soil itself and the baby tears were left floating in 50ish watt lighting with a poor reflector (white painted aquarium roof) and they absolutely took over. I used half of what grew to plant the whole aquarium. So yes if anyone is concerned you can grow baby tears in ~1wat/gal with no water fertilization and no Co2.
Thanks all

Tinanti 07-19-2012 11:55 PM

It's a Selaginella species. And you're correct: It isn't aquatic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selaginella

mr.bigglesworth 07-20-2012 12:31 AM

Oh crap i have that in my tank! so thats why i couldnt find it... omg now that makes sense... its been in their for a month you think its alive?

fattboa 07-26-2012 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.bigglesworth (Post 1949595)
Oh crap i have that in my tank! so thats why i couldnt find it... omg now that makes sense... its been in their for a month you think its alive?

Mine appears to be dying slowly but that sort of applies to all of my other plants.
Need help with plant id, as usual LFS have no idea what they are just the prices :mad:
http://i.imgur.com/YicSj.jpg
Red one in the middle. Some sort of Ludwigia?
http://i.imgur.com/DgDDQ.jpg
One in the foreground, some Sagittaria?

Finally found some baby tears, not sure if dwarf. They appear to have been wrapped in cotton for quite some while and the lower stems/roots appear to be somewhat rotten/brown. Will they bounce back? Only had a small amount and would really love to grow them since I suspect I'll never find them again. Lighting is 2x150W Osram HQI-TS 5600K metal halides over a 50 gallon tank. Dirt substrate with pool filter sand on top. No Co2 what so ever but going pressurized in a few days just for the baby tears if needed.
Another question, I suspect that I bought a java fern but the leaves seem to be thin with a loong stem, one of the leaves has a trident effect. Plant has rhizome. Is it java fern? Pics coming soon.
Thank you everyone

Wasserpest 07-26-2012 11:52 PM

That's a lot of light over that tank, lol. You could probably grow corals too. :wink:

The pink plant is Alternanthera reineckii. Not sure about the other, my Sagittarias have broader leaves. Hopefully that one is aquatic.

ThatGuyWithTheFish 07-26-2012 11:58 PM

It's also sold as Peacock Fern at Petco, not aquatic.

fattboa 07-27-2012 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasserpest (Post 1958282)
That's a lot of light over that tank, lol. You could probably grow corals too. :wink:

The pink plant is Alternanthera reineckii. Not sure about the other, my Sagittarias have broader leaves. Hopefully that one is aquatic.

I surely hope so, got scammed with the peacock fern :P
The reason for the lights is because I could not find any T5HOs, nevermind the ballast, reflectors etc. Plus I like the shimmer
I am not interested in corals and saltwater at all, especially after I heard a friend of mine saying he payed ~280$ for a bulb and upwards of 600$ a month just for maintenance :icon_surp:icon_surp:icon_surp
Thank you

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyWithTheFish (Post 1958287)
It's also sold as Peacock Fern at Petco, not aquatic.

Thank you, I did get an ID on that previously.

fattboa 07-29-2012 10:19 PM

http://i.imgur.com/DgDDQ.jpg
Any ideas on the plant in the foreground? It does have substantial roots so maybe that helps?
Also, the small plant in the foreground is baby tears, correct?
I regret not majoring in botany :(

LeonBright 07-30-2012 01:05 AM

I think that might be a Vallisneria Nana

Bruce_S 07-30-2012 01:32 AM

The plant in your foreground looks rather like mondo "grass" (not a true grass) to me ... It's from Japan, and is _not_ aquatic. It's a member of the same family of plants as Liriope, and can be grown in your garden long-term, but not in your aquarium. (Some folks even use dwarf mondo as a lawn - it spreads by runners and needs mowing about once a year.)

I hope you discover that I'm wrong, though!

~Bruce

fattboa 07-30-2012 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeonBright (Post 1961399)
I think that might be a Vallisneria Nana

Unfortunately, it does not appear to be this species.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce_S (Post 1961426)
The plant in your foreground looks rather like mondo "grass" (not a true grass) to me ... It's from Japan, and is _not_ aquatic. It's a member of the same family of plants as Liriope, and can be grown in your garden long-term, but not in your aquarium. (Some folks even use dwarf mondo as a lawn - it spreads by runners and needs mowing about once a year.)

I hope you discover that I'm wrong, though!

~Bruce

It appears that you are correct. Just looked at a few pictures, focused on the roots and I think it is the same. Yet another non-aquatic plant. What a wonderful start.
I do not think they will fare well outside, it is 105F+ at night, 130+ ambient in the day. Ground reaches well over 150F easily. Nothing lasts outside except Conacarpus and even then its iffy.
Thank you very much for the ID

keithy 07-30-2012 02:14 AM

you should go exchange them with some other aquatic plants.

fattboa 01-26-2013 07:43 PM

Hello all
Instead of making a new thread thought about updating this one.
Need help with a few of these because as usual sellers here only know the price. Sorry about the bad/large photographs.
Also, the red plants seem to be turning green. Some pre-existing leaves are turning green the new growth. Anyone knows why? They have been under 1watt/gallon light. Is that a factor?
http://s14.postimage.org/v8ebzg9oh/IMG_4284.jpg
http://s14.postimage.org/j7svyq29t/IMG_4288.jpg
The red/burgundy one in the middle. I suspect its not aquatic.
http://s14.postimage.org/hh9ux8kqp/IMG_4289.jpg
Red one in the middle. Looks like red baby tears? New leaves are green.
http://s14.postimage.org/c74w5y0ht/IMG_4291.jpg
One in the middle. Definitely a stem plant.
http://s14.postimage.org/nkrfh5b0h/IMG_4300.jpg
Fine leaved one. Underside of leaves is a little reddish.
Btw regarding my previous concerns about the baby tears, boy was I wrong. I sort of abandoned the aquarium for a few months with no fertilizers whatsoever except from the soil itself and the baby tears were left floating in 50ish watt lighting with a poor reflector (white painted aquarium roof) and they absolutely took over. I used half of what grew to plant the whole aquarium. So yes if anyone is concerned you can grow baby tears in ~1wat/gal with no water fertilization and no Co2.
Thanks all

fattboa 01-30-2013 06:00 PM

Bump?
The first two I have no idea.
The third picture is Nesaea red? Got it from the database so not sure.
Third one is some Hygrophilia??
4th one in the middle is Rotala hippuris?
Thanks

Indian fern 01-31-2013 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fattboa (Post 2398690)
Bump?
The first two I have no idea.
The third picture is Nesaea red? Got it from the database so not sure.
Third one is some Hygrophilia??
4th one in the middle is Rotala hippuris?
Thanks

Second pic looks some sort of a rotala.


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