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GreyFeather 07-10-2012 04:25 AM

New to the hobby & Fluval Spec 5 gal
 
Hi everyone!

I'm very new to this hobby and I'm interested in starting my first planted tank ever. I have been researching and absorbing everything I can before I start. I wanted to start on a small scale - definitely low tech.

The tank I am interested in (planning to purchase this weekend) is the Fluval spec 5 gallon. I've read all the reviews about the tank I could find and I am getting a lot of conflicting information - especially about the 7500k LED light. Does anyone currently own the tank that could give me some feedback on their thoughts about the tank/light.

I wanted to do a run down of my plans and would greatly appreciate guidance with this project.

The substrate I will be using is the Fluval Stratum (the ones for shrimps).

Fauna (not sure if this is overkill for a 5 gallon but...) 2 cherry shrimps, a school of neon tetras or (male) guppies.

The hardscape will be driftwood (I'm currently soaking to get rid of some of the tannins) and zebra rocks.

Flora I am interested in (have not yet purchased) are low-light plants...java ferns, java moss, anubias. I was also interested in some floaters (I'm not sure what types yet -- recommendations welcome!). In addition, I was hoping to establish some type of carpet but I am worried that the light will not be sufficient since I read most carpets require high light levels.

With that size tank, I'm not sure if it's necessary to dose/fertilize...I am not interested in using CO2 supplementation. I have already bought the heater/thermometer, and water test kit. I do plan on doing a fishless cycle.

Very very new with all this but very excited to get into it. Thank you in advance for any input/advice :)

dubels 07-10-2012 05:15 AM

You are going to want to start off with at least 10 cherry shrimp. Also because fire shrimp are so cheap now you might want to start off with those instead. They are just as hardy and better looking IMO. Neon tetras might not be best with the shrimp. I have had neons and cardinals with shrimps and once they were removed from the tank the shrimp came out a lot more. You might want to look into some small nano fish: Dario Dario, CPD, Chili Rasboras. A school of neon tetras would be a bit much for such a small tank.

GreyFeather 07-10-2012 08:50 PM

Thanks Dubels! Going to do some research on the species you recommended. I am starting to lean away from shrimps from everything I have researched about them. Admittedly I am getting rather fond of the dwarf gourami (thinking one in a five gal wouldn't be so bad). Will get pics up when I get the tank set up and cycled.

GreyFeather 07-11-2012 10:46 PM

We bought the tank earlier than expected!

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...Tank/tank1.jpg

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...Tank/tank3.jpg

Here is the flora we chose:
- Java fern
- Anubias nana
- Cryptocoryne wendtii
- Heianthus (feeling bold!) for an attempted carpet

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...Tank/tank2.jpg

Hardscape is just a piece of rock. I still have the drift wood soaking but I liked the way the rock looked so it stays.

No fauna yet. I'm still thinking about it and I keep changing my mind. It will be nano fish of some type ...

Here is the tank set up (will take better photos when the bubbles clear).
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...Tank/tank4.jpg

Substrate is just fluval stratum.

I love how neat the fluval spec is! All the hard ware is tucked in at the back. The filter is VERY quiet.

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...Tank/tank6.jpg

I was hoping the stock lights were a bit brighter...but they will be replaced sometime in the future (not any time soon)
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...Tank/tank5.jpg

QUESTION: Given that the stock light is a LED 7500k which will be left on for 6 hours a day - is that sufficient to keep the plants alive? I currently do not have a CO2 system - possibly will pick one up down the road. Would you recommend me dosing flourish Excel?

Any other recommendations? Suggestions?

GreyFeather 07-12-2012 02:04 PM

I've updated this thread with photos yesterday but the post is not showing up?

GreyFeather 07-12-2012 05:44 PM

Update on the tank, can see it better now that most of the bubbles are gone.

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...46498835_n.jpg

GreyFeather 07-12-2012 08:22 PM

At this point I feel like I'm talking to myself here :icon_eek: ..

Anyways, since I can't get much response/suggestions, I've been googling and reading reviews. The info gets overwhelming at times...this being my first planted tank (my first tank at all actually). I do realize I need some CO2 into the tank to keep the carpet alive. I've been reading up on various forms of carbon ...liquid, tablets, and pressurized. From what I've read, I'm leaning towards the fluval CO2 20 kit, it should be sufficient since my tank is only 5 gallons? I figured I could get the hang of using CO2 first then I would be more comfortable with the DIY CO2. I've also read good reviews about Flourish Excel and I'm not sure if I should stick with that instead of the Fluval CO2...

battered 07-12-2012 08:37 PM

Don't go with the Fluval CO2 kit - it gets expensive in the long run. I guess you could do excel, but I've heard that although it works, it doesn't come close to actual CO2. It also might be dangerous for shrimp if you overdose it. I'd do DIY CO2 (unless you want to go paintball or pressurized). Trust me; the info might seem overwhelming at times, but it's very very easy to pull off. You're going to need a stronger light to grow the HC though, definitely. Otherwise, looks good!

dubels 07-12-2012 09:16 PM

Dosing CO2 depends on what fauna you want to keep in the tank. In smaller tanks CO2 with shrimp can be dangerous because you need to monitor the PH levels and should not have big CO2 swings. Excel can be more dangerous because its very easy to overdose with shrimp. But if you are going with nano fish (Dario Dario, Chili Rasbora, CPD) you should be good with either option. Check out this forums DIY section for DIY CO2. I have two DIY CO2 setups running and they seem adeqaute.

jujiro 07-12-2012 09:28 PM

I really like the layout on your tank So far . Yea the stock lighting on these nano kits aren't quite strong enough to grow anything except low to medium light plants. I had to change my 2 gallon tank's light out with a desk lamp and a spiral fluorescent bulb.

CryptKeeper54 07-12-2012 10:38 PM

I want one... it will be interesting to see what this light can and can't grow.

Chrisinator 07-12-2012 10:42 PM

I really like the look of that spec!

GreyFeather 07-14-2012 10:39 PM

Thanks everyone for the feed back :)

I had time to assimilate everyone's response before I ran off to Big Al's this morning. I by-passed the fluval CO2 kit and bought flourish excel as recommended. I also picked up the flourish root tabs -- I have to ask though, is it overkill if I use the root tabs since I have the fluval stratum?

I thought I would try my luck out. If the HC dies, then I'll venture to either the fluval CO2 or DIY CO2.

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...Tank/tank7.jpg

Went ahead and gave the first 'shock' dose of fluval excel just a few minutes ago.

The tank is looking good so far. Updated photo:
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...Tank/tank8.jpg

One concern I had is that I noticed the rock was 'crumbling' ...I went back to my receipt and found out it was a travatine tufa and the majority of the information I found about the rock was that it was more popular in reefs/salt water but it was also perfectly safe to use in freshwater - can some one confirm? In any case, I read that it was just calcium carbonate that was crumbling and would affect pH of tank
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...Tank/tank9.jpg

I have a water test kit - will use it sometime tonight and give parameter readings. Still no fauna...still undecided.

idleivey 07-14-2012 10:52 PM

I think the only problem with the rock might end up being water hardness issues. Depends on your tap water, if you have pretty soft tap water then it should work out. I would test Gh and Kh and see where your at.

Otherwise it looks nice, I like the fluva spec dimensions. Makes for a nice display tank. Not a huge fan of the fixture but an led swap might be an interesting mod.

bat_billy 10-07-2012 06:54 PM

Spec V Par Data
 
Buying a Spec V tomorrow. Does anyone have any par data on the stock light?


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