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msawdey 05-30-2012 11:04 PM

GLA Atomic Co2 Regulator Review- updated 2/6/2013
 
My new GLA atomic reg came today...

http://greenleafaquariums.com/co2-re...ulator-v3.html

For first impression... HOLY COW.. Its small, heavy, and looks like one solid piece of equipment. I'm highly impressed.

Setting it up now and will report back in a few days. For now, if anyone has any questions, please let me know!

msawdey 05-30-2012 11:45 PM

ok.. set up in under 5 minutes. Attached to a standard tank with little trouble.

The only problem i see is that without a bubble counter, it would be semi hard for those new to the hobby to judge co2. I of course have a drop checker and will be checking it in 2 hours to see where i am.

I must say. It pairs nicely with my GLA atomic inline diffuser

jkan0228 05-30-2012 11:48 PM

+1 on what you said about the bubble counter. Otherwise that thing seems to last forever durability/quality wise.

talontsiawd 05-30-2012 11:51 PM

It looks really nice. As for no bubble counter, I really am loving not using an inline one but that is always an option. You can get nice ones from ADA, knock offs on [Ebay Link Removed] I made mine out of a check valve and an oral syringe thing.

msawdey 05-31-2012 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by talontsiawd (Post 1883513)
It looks really nice. As for no bubble counter, I really am loving not using an inline one but that is always an option. You can get nice ones from ADA, knock offs on [Ebay Link Removed] I made mine out of a check valve and an oral syringe thing.

thats a good idea.. never thought of that!

msawdey 05-31-2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jkan0228 (Post 1883511)
+1 on what you said about the bubble counter. Otherwise that thing seems to last forever durability/quality wise.

only having it for like 4 hours.. i have to agree... its a solid piece of equipment.. I will definitely recommend it to everyone

Jiinx 06-09-2012 10:11 PM

Just wondering how you feel about it still? Where would you place the bubble counter? I'm such a newbie..not sure how I would fit one on if I purchase this product. I don't want to buy the atomic diffuser...can I still go with a reactor ?

Centromochlus 06-09-2012 10:20 PM

I have an atomic regulator from GLA as well and I've got to say its one of my favorite regulators that I've purchased from them. It's very well-built and the needle valve allows for super-fine adjustment. They also look really cool!

Regarding bubble counters, the in-line type work just fine. You can hide it in your stand or attach it to the side of the aquarium. It really isn't too big of a deal IMO.

You can use these regulators with a reactor, but to be honest the atomic diffusers that they sell are going to be much, much more efficient than MOST reactors. I had a reactor on my 90G and I recently switched to a 45mm GLA atomic diffuser. I'm using about 1/3 the CO2 (BPS) with the diffuser compared o with the reactor, and i'm getting the same concentration level in my aquarium.

talontsiawd 06-10-2012 01:25 AM

As Philip (AzFishKid) said, you can use an inline bubble counter. Depending on your method of diffusion, you may not see much benefit. I find I really need one with my inline atomic reactor since I cannot see it working. If you use a reactor, which is possible with any CO2 setup I can think of, you could make it out clear PVC or buy a clear one so you can see the bubbles and therefore not need a bubble counter. Or you can make/buy an inline one.

Basically, you can use a bubble counter and a reactor on this, and other co2 systems, even if they are a complete kit. The regulator (not just this, any regulator) doesn't prevent you from using a reactor or inline bubble counter what so ever.

I know figuring out co2 is hard and don't mean to come off harshly, I just am trying to be thorough so you can make the right choice for your self.

I will say that I am very impressed by my atomic diffuser however. Never used a reactor but this is the best diffuser I have owned and being inline is a big perk as well. I don't like the actual look of the in tank ones compared to other options however which kind of matters to me so I don't know if I would buy the in tank ones, even though I know they work better than others I have used, I would just up the co2.

Starry 06-22-2012 12:59 AM

Looking at this regulator on the GLA site. It sure looks different. How it's so cheap compared to traditional style regulators? What would be pros/cons of this vs. the Nature Beast/ Primo systems? I have a small tank, so I wouldn't be using the atomic diffuser for now, maybe later on a larger tank.

Jeff5614 06-22-2012 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AzFishKid (Post 1896299)
I have an atomic regulator from GLA as well and I've got to say its one of my favorite regulators that I've purchased from them. It's very well-built and the needle valve allows for super-fine adjustment. They also look really cool!

Regarding bubble counters, the in-line type work just fine. You can hide it in your stand or attach it to the side of the aquarium. It really isn't too big of a deal IMO.

You can use these regulators with a reactor, but to be honest the atomic diffusers that they sell are going to be much, much more efficient than MOST reactors. I had a reactor on my 90G and I recently switched to a 45mm GLA atomic diffuser. I'm using about 1/3 the CO2 (BPS) with the diffuser compared o with the reactor, and i'm getting the same concentration level in my aquarium.


FYI, unless you were using the same working pressure with your reactor as you're using with the Atomic diffuser and you've not had to increase your working pressure substantially to accomodate the diffuser, then you're not using less CO2. The bubbles may be the same size but increasing the working pressure from 15 psi to 35 psi means you have a larger amount of CO2 occupying the same volume. It was discussed ad nauseum on the forum when the diffusers first came out.

talontsiawd 06-22-2012 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff5614 (Post 1912061)
FYI, unless you were using the same working pressure with your reactor as you're using with the Atomic diffuser and you've not had to increase your working pressure substantially to accomodate the diffuser, then you're not using less CO2. The bubbles may be the same size but increasing the working pressure from 15 psi to 35 psi means you have a larger amount of CO2 occupying the same volume. It was discussed ad nauseum on the forum when the diffusers first came out.

I can say with certainty that my Atomic diffuser is more efficient than my Cal Aqua in tank as I had to switch them for a week and didn't make any changes.

AndreyT 06-22-2012 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzFishKid (Post 1896299)
I had a reactor on my 90G and I recently switched to a 45mm GLA atomic diffuser. I'm using about 1/3 the CO2 (BPS) with the diffuser compared o with the reactor, and i'm getting the same concentration level in my aquarium.

As Jeff5614 said, your comparison is not even remotely valid. Reactors have extremely low working pressure. Atomic diffusers have very high (by aquarium standards) working pressure. That means the each bubble with the diffuser might actually contain, like, 9 times more CO2 than each bubble with the reactor. In such example, if you are running your diffuser at 1/3 BPS, you are actually using 3 time more CO2 than you did before. More, not less.

Centromochlus 06-22-2012 03:41 AM

Thanks for clearing that up-- obviously i wasn't correct in my assumption. Sorry if i misled anyone.

However, if i were running 10psi and 3bps with a reactor, wouldn't that be the same as 30psi and 1bps with an atomic diffuser? Or does the difference in volume not correlate that closely?

Regardless, i do believe that the GLA atomic diffusers are definitely some of the best on the market. The mist that they put out is much finer than what other atomic diffuser brands can do. While perhaps my previous statement about it being more efficient than a reactor may or may not be correct, the GLA atomic diffusers are extremely efficient themselves.

radioman 06-22-2012 07:15 PM

If anyone wants to see the mist there is a video on youtube. I just got one about 2 weeks ago and love it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ia2iYC96lo
I also just bought the paintball regulator and the needle valve is amazing.


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