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jpmel 05-09-2005 03:45 PM

need help with plants!!!!
 
hi... i was thinking of setting up a tank as natural as possible but preferably as simple too.. are there any plants that need not co2 and fertilizers?

thanks... any help will be most welcome!

ceg4048 05-09-2005 09:26 PM

jpmel,
I can only assume that you are either a real newbie or so advanced that you have ascended to nirvana. Asking whether there are any plants that don't need nutrients is like asking whether there are any people who don't need to eat or to breathe.

The concept of a "natural" tank is also a nonsequitor because nature has no glass boxes with electrical components attached.

On the other hand many people maintain "low tech" tanks where the light is minimal, where the plant species kept are low-light tolerant, and where the fish stocking levels are high enough that the fish waste provides a significant level of nutrients for that configuration. In this configuration the plants adapt and there is less need to supplement CO2. The plants in these tanks have very low growth rates, which is nice because they require much less pruning.

While such a tank is feasible the argument against it is that "natural" can be boring. The argument for it is that the work load is much less.

If by "simple" you mean less equipment then yes, low tech is as simple as it gets, but if by "simple" you mean "I don't have to learn anything" then no, you might be disappointed.

Cheers,

Pete City 05-09-2005 10:32 PM

So lets answer the question shall we,
Yes, any of the anubias species, as long as you have some sort of fish load, I have a 20 gallon with about 10 fish, I never add fertilizer, but I do water changes of 20% everyweek, so it makes me want to tell you, yes, as long as you have a fish load and do water changes. If you are wondering why, because there are nutrients in new water as well as fish poop that plants use as food. I am also having some luck right now with a banana lily.
I should also mention that my tank has very little light, I think its .5 watts per gallon, if that. If you go with a high light tank you will need to add all the things you mentioned, ferts & CO2.

andyg 05-09-2005 11:46 PM

I'll second Pete City on his recomendation. You can also look at java fern, lace java fern, ect. Here's a link to PlantGeek site with the listing on low light plants that could work for your setup.
http://www.plantgeek.net/plantguide_...=1&filter_by=2

jpmel 05-10-2005 03:06 PM

thanks pete and andy........ the infomation the both of u gave was most helpful... the website was very informative too! i juz started out on keepin fishes so im kinda lost on every aspect... haha


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