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GTApuffgal 05-03-2005 11:59 PM

Lotus question...
 
I realize it will probably eventually outgrow my tank, but I just couldn't resist! Beautiful little red lotus!

I got home and began removing the rock wool and the plant separated into 2 pieces and the bulb was hanging by a thread and completely detached. I went ahead and planted the 2 pieces (shallowly) and just put the bulb in the substrate in another spot. Am I going to lose the plants that detached from the bulb? And/or will the bulb grow a new plant???

Thanks!

Kris 05-04-2005 01:21 AM

the bulb will definitely grow a new plant.
as to the other pieces...it depends on whether or not they have a small bit of bulb attached. it's the same thinking as with land-dwelling bulb plants.
good luck, i love mine!
kris :)

GTApuffgal 05-04-2005 02:20 AM

There is definitely a little chunk of something or other holding the roots and shoots together on the two pieces, hopefully it is bits-o-bulb. Now if I can just get my Keyholes to stop using the main bulb as a soccer ball... :icon_roll

Thanks Kris!

Betowess 05-04-2005 05:03 AM

I was recently told by someone in the know (on this forum) to be sure not to bury the bulb too deep, much like anubias, keeping a fair amount out of the substrate. You prolly know as much. My red tiger l. is my very favorite color in the tank and is starting to slowly grow quite a few leaves. I think folks trim them abit to keep from taking over the tank. Mine just had one skinny start shoot when it arrived from AP.com
Good luck. bob

Betowess 05-04-2005 05:03 AM

:icon_redf double post, sorry

GTApuffgal 05-04-2005 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betowess
I was recently told by someone in the know (on this forum) to be sure not to bury the bulb too deep, much like anubias, keeping a fair amount out of the substrate. You prolly know as much. My red tiger l. is my very favorite color in the tank and is starting to slowly grow quite a few leaves. I think folks trim them abit to keep from taking over the tank. Mine just had one skinny start shoot when it arrived from AP.com
Good luck. bob

It ain't deep! (Friggin frackin Keyholes!) I was so excited to find this plant and because nobody at the store had any idea what it was or how much to charge I ended up getting it for $5.99! During the discussion (3 employees involved) I pointed out a sign on another tank which said $15.99 - and was what I had expected to pay. So, okay - good CAN come from less than knowledgeable employees at the LFS...

Bob, how long has it been since you got yours? I am just trying to get an idea how long it will take the bouncing bulb to grow a fresh plant! The color is gorgeous and I think it will make a really nice transition point between the brown of my driftwood to the green stems behind...

Ibn 05-04-2005 09:12 PM

The plant actually doesn't require a bulb to start sprouting new leaves. Got one from Ray awhile back and it had four leaves on it with some roots, but no bulbs. It started to die off after being introduced to the tank (dropped all four leaves) and I thought that I had lost it, but in time the plant started putting out new leaves.

Anthony 05-04-2005 11:28 PM

You should let the bulb sit on your subsrate and wait for it to sprout. Then bury it all except for the the top where the sprout is coming from. I have grown 4 lotus' this way.

GTApuffgal 05-05-2005 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony
You should let the bulb sit on your subsrate and wait for it to sprout. Then bury it all except for the the top where the sprout is coming from. I have grown 4 lotus' this way.

It's moving around a bit, but that's exactly where it is! Hoping the kids lose interest...

Thanks y'all!

Betowess 05-05-2005 02:52 AM

Kathy, I've had it about a month. It has about 3 small leaves and 3 bigger leaves so far. Very lovely. bob

GTApuffgal 05-05-2005 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betowess
Kathy, I've had it about a month. It has about 3 small leaves and 3 bigger leaves so far. Very lovely. bob

Excellent! Thanks!

Well, I've had the plant(s) for a couple of days now and so far, so good. I'm guessing that it was indeed little bulb bits holding the separated pieces intact. This is such a lovely plant and I've been looking for something for a particular spot and this is doing the job perfectly! The tricky part will be keeping it from getting too big... But part of the fun I have discovered as a noob is simply trying out plants that I like. Seeing how/if they grow and thrive for me. Finding out if it looks in MY tank as it does in the photos I have seen. I've got a little collectoritis happening here, but have slowly begun "culling" plants from my tank as I move towards an actual aquascape! Hopefully I can figure out how to contain the lotus as it is a fabulous addition.

jhoetzl 05-05-2005 02:50 PM

I have an completely out of control tiger lotus in my 15. In less that 2 weeks, I've got about 4 leaves the size of a CD, at the surface. Running 40w over a 15 with co2 and ferts galore in my DP tank...holy growth!

Will try for some pics soon...

anonapersona 05-05-2005 03:06 PM

surface leaves
 
It is best to pinch off the leaves that hit the surface. If you do, you can keep it as a submerged plant, which will look better in an aquarium. If you don't, all leaves will rapidly go for the surface covering it so less light reaches the remaining submeged plants and the lilly will try to bloom if there is room in the hood for it. Depending on your lighting this may be a hazard if the lights and flower are too close.

GTApuffgal 05-05-2005 03:36 PM

I think it was on APC's plantfinder where I read that once you allow the leaves to find their way to the surface, the plant is in effect "trained" for it and you should pinch them off long before they get there. (I'm paraphrasing...) I would love to see it flower, but I want to attempt to keep it under control. I plan to let the leaves go until they get grow above the height I want then off with their heads! We'll see...

Joe, I'd love to see some pics!

jhoetzl 05-05-2005 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonapersona
It is best to pinch off the leaves that hit the surface. If you do, you can keep it as a submerged plant, which will look better in an aquarium. If you don't, all leaves will rapidly go for the surface covering it so less light reaches the remaining submeged plants and the lilly will try to bloom if there is room in the hood for it. Depending on your lighting this may be a hazard if the lights and flower are too close.


Hmmm, I am letting them grow to cover the surface for now...the rest of the tank is crypts and "lace" java fern, with the exception of some giant hygro, so I'd like to see if I get a little less algae on my crypts by letting the lotus block some of the light getting in.
No worry, light is up enough...the temp on water surface hits around 90 or so, but water temp measured at two other spots is 79-81 depening on time of day.

I am more concerned about the lotus leaves drying out, but if I understand correctly, the plant is designed to be on top like that, so we'll see...besides, wouldn't mind smelling/seeing a bloom first hand.


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