Is there life on Mars?

[CmLaracy]

I think there's UG and erio in there... expensive plants

[@marko@]

so the plantlets were erio, i got that right.

but still its a rip-off for that little. there's barely enough to survive.

[Buck]

If you are confident that you can grow it out, it is not a bad investment. A lot more then that has been spent for single stems by people in the past and that single stem I am sure bought them many other rare plants or even equiptment.

If you want a rarer plant you will pay , but be successful and it comes back to you.

[Buck]

Albino Bristlenose ! Love them fish.
Hopefully you have 1 male out them. I had a m/f pair that I lost to a tank failure and have been searching locally since. Great fish and of all the plecos they are the most visible and do not hide as much. I have a 4 " brown bristle and I see him maybe once every 2 weeks or so. I hope he is having a good life...

Look forward to a tank shot with your new fish and plants...

[Minsc]

If I had known they were selling the Toninas per stem, I might have gone with
the swap and shop forum. I doubt that I could have gotten this selection of plants any cheaper though. The store where I bought them, The Wet Spot, is the best freshwater store I have ever seen, including Aqua Forest, and I am happy to support them.

Originally Posted by @marko@

FIFTY SIX!?!
for a single stem of HM, two stems of something (is that stargrass?), some little plantlets (eriocaulon? or what are they?), and a carpet plant?
that is the worst rip off i have ever heard of.

You need to work on your plant ID skills my friend
This is Utricularia graminifolia, Tonina fluviatilis, and what were labeled as Tonina Lago Grande and Eriocaulon mini.

Buck, do you feel the albino strain is more social than the brown strain? That is interesting... I just thought they were pretty

All right, as promised, a new FTS, sorry about the window glare:



The Toninas have the spot of honor until they can be propagated a bit.

I need some plant ID help, this one was sold as Tonina Lago Grande. Can anyone verify/have any information about it? I couldn't get any T. belem just yet, and am hoping this is a good replacement.



This was sold as Eriocaulon mini, at first I thought it was a new name for cinereum, but now I'm not sure. Any help? If it is a different species, will it still do the matchstick thing?



Here is one of the BR's enjoying it's new home:

[adamprice271]

Loookin' Great! Can't wait to see it when it grows in.

Adam

[rountreesj]

Lookin good! I'm not going to bother trying to correct anyones plant ID'ing cause I'm lost here...but I will imput that you probably did overpay...but you live and learn...one time I pyed like $10 for about 4 stems of rotala indica at the LFS.

[Wingsdlc]

Really looking forward to this tank filing in. I think it will look great!

[Minsc]

Alright, update time!
The tank has been having some problems, it was almost overtaken by BBA, the Rotala magenta and HC almost died, the downoi stopped growing, it was pretty rough for a while.
I switched to CO2 misting through a maxijet with holes melted in the impeller, changed the flow pattern, and bumped the dosing up to 1 1/2x EI, and now everything seems to be turning back around.

The tank is still a bit messy, and is nowhere near finished, but I'm happy with it again

Full tank shot, ignore the wood with the java fern, that is being grown out for another tank:


The center from a different angle:


E. Taiwan and mini:


A new resident, and unhappy HC:

Anyone know what the stem plant is? I never added it to the tank!

Tonina 'Lago Grande':


Tonina 'Belem':


Tonina fluviatilis:


Tonina fluviatilis "lotus" and normal:

[Wö£fëñxXx]

Not sure how you have C02 setup or what you are dosing,
but the plants look a little famished, Add some Excel
until you can do a little more homework, or get a bit more
experience.
Over all though, good job glad to see another softwater
freak

[SeaSerpant]

That looks A LOT better than the first time i saw it and i thought you had totally teared down this tank. (either that or i haven't seen your thread for a long time because i was ignorant.)

[mizu-chan]

Looked over this thread, and this has really made a ton of improvement.
Looking really good! Keep it up, and looking forward to future updates.

[Minsc]

Craig: I see what you are saying, but wouldn't Excel just be a bandaid?
I want to solve the problem at the root, and I think I'm close...

I might be hitting you up for plants soon, because, yeah, I am a sucker for the soft water plants

SeaSerpant: I promise I'm not tearing this tank down! It has just been fighting with me, and I didn't particularly feel like sharing Notice the hardscape is still covered in beard algae, but it isn't swallowing the plants anymore!

mizu-chan: Thanks, the tank still has a ways to go before I call it done!

[Wö£fëñxXx]

Nah I wouldn't call that a band-aid, plants love the stuff
period, it would/will only help.
Healthy plants is the main goal here.

C02 is tricky even for the best of us, I still have issues
with it at times.

I have a couple more packages to get sent out soon,
after that, let me know what you are looking for, I may
can oblige.

[Minsc]

Another month, and I'm still losing HC and downoi, still having massive BBA issues, still adjusting my CO2 and flow patterns, and still thinking the tank is going to turn the corner and look great any day now

Most of the plants are looking great, and my erio minis are splitting again, so I must be doing something right, I just can't get it locked down.