Propogation 10!

James From Cali · 04-08-2008, 11:12 PM

~~~~~My plant propogation tank~~~~~

Tank Size: 10 gallon
Light: 15 watt strip bulb
Substrate: N/A
CO2: N/A
Ferts: N/A
Fauna: N/A
Flora: Aponogeton bulbs, Lotus bulb, Unknown Plant

Tank with flash

Tank without flash

Unknown Plant

-James From Cali

EDIT: The unknow plant is in emersed form but I have seen it submersed at a local creek.

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James From Cali · 04-09-2008, 08:16 PM

I have been curious about the propogation of the Aponogeton. I know they come from seeds but I also know that if you let them flower they dont live as long. Would I be able to cut the flower stalk off and then propogate it that way or would that not work. I know when you rub the two flowers together that they seed and fertilize so just a thought.

Bk828 · 04-09-2008, 08:39 PM

with those bulbs its easy to propagate. Once the plant grows fully and gets a nice root structure (this is where gravel would be nice) you can break off the bulb and in a week or so the bulb will start growing a new plant.
Waiting for the flower and then pollinating it + letting the flowers dry into seeds and then grow will take forever..

James From Cali · 04-09-2008, 08:48 PM

With the plant bulbs though, how do I break the bulbs?

Bk828 · 04-09-2008, 09:04 PM

Once the plant is all grown and mature the roots will be healthy enough to support the plant and the bulb will grow slightly away from the plant.. even if its 1/4" you can simply just pull it off. I have done this to Tiger lotus but havent tried doing it to aponogeton since i gave it to someone else before I found out the propagation lol.. I bought of 6 of those bulbs 2 were duds (onion plant is the worst).. 2 were lilies and 2 were aponogeton. The aponogeton bloomed for me like crazy, ive had 4-5 blooms all at ones and more coming.

Throw some substrate in the tank, even if its sand (cheap) or regular gravel you might have laying around. It will collect all the goodies and provide good nutrients for the plants.

James From Cali · 04-09-2008, 09:06 PM

I plan on getting some black sand for this tank but for now I need to get the money for it. I didnt know that I will have to try that propogation method.

Bk828 · 04-09-2008, 09:24 PM

I tell you this. with aponogeton its better and easier to buy a new bulb than to have something grow out of the seeds..

**lauraleellbp** · 04-09-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by James From Cali

I plan on getting some black sand for this tank but for now I need to get the money for it. I didnt know that I will have to try that propogation method.

Have you looked into Colorquartz James? $23 got me 50lb at a local pool supply company, and I really like the look...

James From Cali · 04-10-2008, 04:36 AM

Laura Lee, I will have to check that. It would be great for my budget cause I would have some leftovers.

A little update. I split up the unknown plant and the smaller stems are all dieing off so lets see what happens. The largest stem seems to be fine.

mistergreen · 04-10-2008, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lauraleellbp

Have you looked into Colorquartz James? $23 got me 50lb at a local pool supply company, and I really like the look...

interesting, it's a 3M product and is coated with ceramics... I wonder if it's as good as the inert SMS or schultz aquasoil.

James From Cali · 04-12-2008, 01:42 AM

I should be getting more plants for this tank soon. I may have substrate by next week aswell but IDK. I do know that I will keep flame moss on rock for a while.

James From Cali · 04-13-2008, 10:07 PM

From Kitchen

From Living Room

What does everyone think of this hardscape for the tank. I may try something different but if nothing else works what do you think?

**FrostyNYC** · 04-13-2008, 11:51 PM

James,
Can you explain the purpose of this tank? If it's a propogation tank, I would assume that hardscape would be nil, and you would focus on proper lighting, CO2, and fertilization. Is this tank designed to be a grow-out tank for new plants you want to try, before you add them to your "show tanks" ?

Regarding your substrate: will you have a finer substrate on the sides, with that pebble/large gravel river in the middle?

04-08-2008, 11:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
James From Cali Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 2,682	Propogation 10! ~~~~~My plant propogation tank~~~~~ Tank Size: 10 gallon Light: 15 watt strip bulb Substrate: N/A CO2: N/A Ferts: N/A Fauna: N/A Flora: Aponogeton bulbs, Lotus bulb, Unknown Plant *Tank with flash* *Tank without flash* *Unknown Plant* -James From Cali EDIT: The unknow plant is in emersed form but I have seen it submersed at a local creek. __________________ Tanks: 10g:Pardise Fish, 10g:Zebra Danio Eggs: These eggs will die in 5-7 days. Click them

04-09-2008, 08:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
James From Cali Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 2,682	I have been curious about the propogation of the Aponogeton. I know they come from seeds but I also know that if you let them flower they dont live as long. Would I be able to cut the flower stalk off and then propogate it that way or would that not work. I know when you rub the two flowers together that they seed and fertilize so just a thought. __________________ Tanks: 10g:Pardise Fish, 10g:Zebra Danio Eggs: These eggs will die in 5-7 days. Click them

04-09-2008, 08:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bk828 Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (15) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 332	with those bulbs its easy to propagate. Once the plant grows fully and gets a nice root structure (this is where gravel would be nice) you can break off the bulb and in a week or so the bulb will start growing a new plant. Waiting for the flower and then pollinating it + letting the flowers dry into seeds and then grow will take forever.. __________________

04-09-2008, 08:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
James From Cali Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 2,682	With the plant bulbs though, how do I break the bulbs? __________________ Tanks: 10g:Pardise Fish, 10g:Zebra Danio Eggs: These eggs will die in 5-7 days. Click them

04-09-2008, 09:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bk828 Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (15) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 332	Once the plant is all grown and mature the roots will be healthy enough to support the plant and the bulb will grow slightly away from the plant.. even if its 1/4" you can simply just pull it off. I have done this to Tiger lotus but havent tried doing it to aponogeton since i gave it to someone else before I found out the propagation lol.. I bought of 6 of those bulbs 2 were duds (onion plant is the worst).. 2 were lilies and 2 were aponogeton. The aponogeton bloomed for me like crazy, ive had 4-5 blooms all at ones and more coming. Throw some substrate in the tank, even if its sand (cheap) or regular gravel you might have laying around. It will collect all the goodies and provide good nutrients for the plants. __________________

04-09-2008, 09:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
James From Cali Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 2,682	I plan on getting some black sand for this tank but for now I need to get the money for it. I didnt know that I will have to try that propogation method. __________________ Tanks: 10g:Pardise Fish, 10g:Zebra Danio Eggs: These eggs will die in 5-7 days. Click them

04-09-2008, 09:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
Bk828 Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (15) Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 332	I tell you this. with aponogeton its better and easier to buy a new bulb than to have something grow out of the seeds.. __________________

04-10-2008, 04:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
James From Cali Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 2,682	Laura Lee, I will have to check that. It would be great for my budget cause I would have some leftovers. A little update. I split up the unknown plant and the smaller stems are all dieing off so lets see what happens. The largest stem seems to be fine. __________________ Tanks: 10g:Pardise Fish, 10g:Zebra Danio Eggs: These eggs will die in 5-7 days. Click them

04-12-2008, 01:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
James From Cali Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 2,682	I should be getting more plants for this tank soon. I may have substrate by next week aswell but IDK. I do know that I will keep flame moss on rock for a while. __________________ Tanks: 10g:Pardise Fish, 10g:Zebra Danio Eggs: These eggs will die in 5-7 days. Click them

04-13-2008, 10:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
James From Cali Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 2,682	*From Kitchen* *From Living Room* What does everyone think of this hardscape for the tank. I may try something different but if nothing else works what do you think? __________________ Tanks: 10g:Pardise Fish, 10g:Zebra Danio Eggs: These eggs will die in 5-7 days. Click them

04-13-2008, 11:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
FrostyNYC Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC & Long Island, NY Posts: 322	James, Can you explain the purpose of this tank? If it's a propogation tank, I would assume that hardscape would be nil, and you would focus on proper lighting, CO2, and fertilization. Is this tank designed to be a grow-out tank for new plants you want to try, before you add them to your "show tanks" ? Regarding your substrate: will you have a finer substrate on the sides, with that pebble/large gravel river in the middle?

04-14-2008, 02:16 AM	#14 (permalink)
mistergreen Planted Tank Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 2,416