The Tiger Tank (56k)

esarkipato · 11-15-2007, 12:57 PM

Just a comment about the lighting....I'm probably beating a dead horse here, but to do the math you've got 46 watts over ~42 gallons. Not only that, but you can tell by the light on the wall behind the tank that those reflectors are not directly light INTO the tank, they are directing the light AROUND the tank. I will be very interested to see what kind of plants this tank will support with that lighting setup. I might suggest simply lowering the lights a bit to reduce the amount of lumens lost to the areas outside the tank!

That said, your driftwood setup is gorgeous! And that sure is a lot of anubias!! Keep up the good work.

**Urkevitz** · 11-15-2007, 01:06 PM

Cherry barbs and danios go well with Tiger barbs. I tried the green tiger barbs, and albinos but they just weren't as healthy and always ended up dead.

tazcrash69 · 11-15-2007, 03:22 PM

Very sneaky on the lighting there. Wondering if you put eye-balls to help focus more light into the tank, or possibly just lower them a touch.

I miss my school of tiger barbs, they are great shoalers, and have good character, but I had to pass on them to keep amano shrimp.

ikuzo · 11-16-2007, 01:16 AM

esarkipato
the lighting is little bit too high isn't it? i think i'm gonna see the plant's growth for the first month and will decide if i'm gonna lower the lighting or not. plants are restricted to anubias, sagittaria subulata, then probably echinodorus tenellus and vallisneria nana (for the last two i have doubts that they can grow well in this low light setup but i hope it will).

Urkevitz
i have cherry barbs in my other tank but will tiger barbs leave cherries alone? same thing about danios, i'm not pretty sure mixing tiger barbs with other peaceful species.

tazcrash69
same here, i love cherry shrimps but i already have a lot of them in my other tank. do tiger barbs harrass amano shrimps even the big ones? if this is true then i won't have a single cleaning crew in this tank. what about ottocinclus / SAE / rainbow shark?

esarkipato · 11-16-2007, 01:59 PM

I'm pretty sure they would disregard the presence of some otocinclus.

tazcrash69 · 11-16-2007, 02:06 PM

FWIW the tigers didn't bother my ottos, or SAEs (small at the time).
I also had Danios, and the barbs didn't bother them either. The barbs were low exploring the foliage, and the danios cruised the top.
then again I had about 15 tigers, and 10 danios.

YMMV.

**Urkevitz** · 11-16-2007, 10:23 PM

I have Tiger barbs with Cherry barbs and they ignore each other, I have also had tigers and cherries in a 20 gallon tank and they got along fine. I also have danios in the same tank with cherries and tigers with no problem.

ikuzo · 11-17-2007, 01:12 AM

i'm loving my tiger barbs, i'm gonna try to buy some more plus albinos and greens. they do explore the bottom tank. in total it will be 20 of them. 8 tigers, 4 albinos, 4 greens. colourful...

any of you guys know if these fish will nip on leaves / new growth?

ikuzo · 11-20-2007, 02:53 AM

bought one ottocinclus a few days ago, put it in the tank. when the tiger barbs see it, they attack it immediately. otto is running like crazy and fortunately i can save it.

after this i'm not sure anymore about ottos, amanos, and even SAE.

ikuzo · 11-23-2007, 01:05 PM

uhm 3 posts in a row, does this mean nobody want to say something about my tank?

after planting sagittaria subulata

new addition anubias barteri var coffeefolia

cryptocoryne willisii

i tried some vallisneria nana as backgound but didn't like it much. the leaves looks too small behind those anubias. gonna buy some vallisneria spiralis later.

thanks for looking.

**bsmith782** · 11-23-2007, 04:59 PM

i love coffeola, the tank looks grat!

PeteyPob · 11-23-2007, 05:33 PM

This tank looks great! I like the idea of have a "Tiger" theme.
Keep it green and those tiger barbs will really stand out.

**Erk** · 11-23-2007, 06:00 PM

Still looking great! I cant wait to see the grass fill in, but that driftwood with the plants on it rocks!!

Keep up the great work!

**Urkevitz** · 11-23-2007, 08:36 PM

Get a rainbow shark, they have a bit of an attitude the tiger barbs won't mess with it. The only problem with them is they are territorial towards similarly shaped fish like SAE's.

ikuzo · 11-24-2007, 12:29 AM

everyone thanks for the nice comments.

Urkevitz
you know what, i already have a juvenile rainbow shark there. at first those tiger barbs try to bother the shark but it kept defending and sort of fight back to defend it's territory. now the barbs don't even dare to bother it again.

thanks for pointing out that SAE won't mix with rainbow shark. i was planning to buy some SAE tonight.

11-15-2007, 12:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
esarkipato Planted Tank Infatuated (View User Tanks) PTrader: (28) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: W. Michigan Posts: 1,985	Just a comment about the lighting....I'm probably beating a dead horse here, but to do the math you've got 46 watts over ~42 gallons. Not only that, but you can tell by the light on the wall behind the tank that those reflectors are not directly light INTO the tank, they are directing the light AROUND the tank. I will be very interested to see what kind of plants this tank will support with that lighting setup. I might suggest simply lowering the lights a bit to reduce the amount of lumens lost to the areas outside the tank! That said, your driftwood setup is gorgeous! And that sure is a lot of anubias!! Keep up the good work. __________________ -Ernie 29 Gallon Tank: 110W PC Lights, Milwaukee MA957 CO2, Fluorite/Sand Substrate, Checked into E.I. Rehab MY RENA FILSTAR XP3 PIMPS ME! (#67)

11-15-2007, 03:22 PM	#18 (permalink)
tazcrash69 Moderator (View User Tanks) PTrader: (22) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hawthorne, NJ Posts: 3,025	Very sneaky on the lighting there. Wondering if you put eye-balls to help focus more light into the tank, or possibly just lower them a touch. I miss my school of tiger barbs, they are great shoalers, and have good character, but I had to pass on them to keep amano shrimp. __________________ Walter Visit my 125 profile and gallery or my 5 gallon low-tech. Proud member of:NJAGC.net --May the floor under your tank always be dry, and your glass clear!!!

11-16-2007, 01:16 AM	#19 (permalink)
ikuzo Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,752	esarkipato the lighting is little bit too high isn't it? i think i'm gonna see the plant's growth for the first month and will decide if i'm gonna lower the lighting or not. plants are restricted to anubias, sagittaria subulata, then probably echinodorus tenellus and vallisneria nana (for the last two i have doubts that they can grow well in this low light setup but i hope it will). Urkevitz i have cherry barbs in my other tank but will tiger barbs leave cherries alone? same thing about danios, i'm not pretty sure mixing tiger barbs with other peaceful species. tazcrash69 same here, i love cherry shrimps but i already have a lot of them in my other tank. do tiger barbs harrass amano shrimps even the big ones? if this is true then i won't have a single cleaning crew in this tank. what about ottocinclus / SAE / rainbow shark? __________________ Certainly take the advice of others but always, always be yourself - Eric Cantona My Tanks : 100 40 20 16 10 3 1

11-16-2007, 01:59 PM	#20 (permalink)
esarkipato Planted Tank Infatuated (View User Tanks) PTrader: (28) Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: W. Michigan Posts: 1,985	I'm pretty sure they would disregard the presence of some otocinclus. __________________ -Ernie 29 Gallon Tank: 110W PC Lights, Milwaukee MA957 CO2, Fluorite/Sand Substrate, Checked into E.I. Rehab MY RENA FILSTAR XP3 PIMPS ME! (#67)

11-16-2007, 02:06 PM	#21 (permalink)
tazcrash69 Moderator (View User Tanks) PTrader: (22) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hawthorne, NJ Posts: 3,025	FWIW the tigers didn't bother my ottos, or SAEs (small at the time). I also had Danios, and the barbs didn't bother them either. The barbs were low exploring the foliage, and the danios cruised the top. then again I had about 15 tigers, and 10 danios. YMMV. __________________ Walter Visit my 125 profile and gallery or my 5 gallon low-tech. Proud member of:NJAGC.net --May the floor under your tank always be dry, and your glass clear!!!

11-15-2007, 01:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
Urkevitz Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NY Posts: 1,851	Cherry barbs and danios go well with Tiger barbs. I tried the green tiger barbs, and albinos but they just weren't as healthy and always ended up dead.

11-16-2007, 10:23 PM	#22 (permalink)
Urkevitz Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NY Posts: 1,851	I have Tiger barbs with Cherry barbs and they ignore each other, I have also had tigers and cherries in a 20 gallon tank and they got along fine. I also have danios in the same tank with cherries and tigers with no problem.

11-17-2007, 01:12 AM	#23 (permalink)
ikuzo Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,752	i'm loving my tiger barbs, i'm gonna try to buy some more plus albinos and greens. they do explore the bottom tank. in total it will be 20 of them. 8 tigers, 4 albinos, 4 greens. colourful... any of you guys know if these fish will nip on leaves / new growth? __________________ Certainly take the advice of others but always, always be yourself - Eric Cantona My Tanks : 100 40 20 16 10 3 1

11-20-2007, 02:53 AM	#24 (permalink)
ikuzo Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,752	bought one ottocinclus a few days ago, put it in the tank. when the tiger barbs see it, they attack it immediately. otto is running like crazy and fortunately i can save it. after this i'm not sure anymore about ottos, amanos, and even SAE. __________________ Certainly take the advice of others but always, always be yourself - Eric Cantona My Tanks : 100 40 20 16 10 3 1

11-23-2007, 01:05 PM	#25 (permalink)
ikuzo Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,752	uhm 3 posts in a row, does this mean nobody want to say something about my tank? after planting sagittaria subulata new addition anubias barteri var coffeefolia cryptocoryne willisii i tried some vallisneria nana as backgound but didn't like it much. the leaves looks too small behind those anubias. gonna buy some vallisneria spiralis later. thanks for looking. __________________ Certainly take the advice of others but always, always be yourself - Eric Cantona My Tanks : 100 40 20 16 10 3 1

11-23-2007, 04:59 PM	#26 (permalink)
bsmith782 Anubis-X (View User Tanks) PTrader: (81) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St.Louis, MO Posts: 2,441	i love coffeola, the tank looks grat! __________________ FilStar proponent #91 I have a 2213 too and my Eheim # is 299. What now? cube and mini-m http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pl...be-mini-m.html VP Member #4 "Regulator's Mount Up" VTS-253A

11-23-2007, 05:33 PM	#27 (permalink)
PeteyPob Planted Tank Enthusiast (View User Tanks) PTrader: (33) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 929	This tank looks great! I like the idea of have a "Tiger" theme. Keep it green and those tiger barbs will really stand out. __________________ "I love that they hate me for all the same reasons" -Kobe Bryant, TV commercial

11-23-2007, 06:00 PM	#28 (permalink)
Erk Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (23) Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Strasburg, PA Posts: 365	Still looking great! I cant wait to see the grass fill in, but that driftwood with the plants on it rocks!! Keep up the great work! __________________ 46gal BF, 3x39w T5s, pressurized co2 through venturi reactor, Eco-Complete, Dry Ferts, 3 discus, XP3, 1x50% WC/week with RO water http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/yo...do=view&id=467 Filstar Pimp #103

11-23-2007, 08:36 PM	#29 (permalink)
Urkevitz Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (8) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NY Posts: 1,851	Get a rainbow shark, they have a bit of an attitude the tiger barbs won't mess with it. The only problem with them is they are territorial towards similarly shaped fish like SAE's.

11-24-2007, 12:29 AM	#30 (permalink)
ikuzo Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,752	everyone thanks for the nice comments. Urkevitz you know what, i already have a juvenile rainbow shark there. at first those tiger barbs try to bother the shark but it kept defending and sort of fight back to defend it's territory. now the barbs don't even dare to bother it again. thanks for pointing out that SAE won't mix with rainbow shark. i was planning to buy some SAE tonight. __________________ Certainly take the advice of others but always, always be yourself - Eric Cantona My Tanks : 100 40 20 16 10 3 1

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