My Planted Goldfish Tank

ikuzo · 09-16-2007, 02:06 AM

ok here are some updates, as you notice some of my goldfish are missing, unfortunately they died from some kind of disease

anubias tied on woods

Johnny Relentless · 10-05-2007, 08:54 PM

I think what BrnMix meant about harmful to plants is that if you saturate the water with air you can prevent CO2 from being absorbed into the water, and the plants need that to thrive and grow. I think that's the theory, anyway. Although since there is CO2 in the air as well, I'm not sure why an air stone wouldn't also put CO2 into the water. Probably oxygen just gets absorbed quicker than carbon dioxide.
Of course, for non CO2 injection tanks plants are recommended that either grow past the water surface or float on it, because contact with air enables them to get the necessary CO2.

ikuzo · 10-06-2007, 05:50 AM

well i removed the airstone now and added DIY CO2

Architect1 · 10-06-2007, 07:58 PM

Wow Amazing tank I would never think to see real plants in with gold fish. I thought they would move the stone around to much for plants. Nice tank and sorry to hear about your disease.

ikuzo · 10-07-2007, 03:03 AM

hello Architect1, thanks. it's not impossible to combine goldfish and plants. the hardest thing is to balance the ferts / CO2 to prevent algae as the fish' bioload is a lot.

eon17 · 10-08-2007, 12:22 AM

that looks like to many goldies!! I would say only 1 fancy in a 20g the rule is 20g ffor the first 10 for each extra

ikuzo · 10-08-2007, 02:04 AM

now i got one big fancy goldfish and 2 smaller ones. that explains the bioload

**dekstr** · 11-23-2007, 08:28 AM

So you don't have to do any ferts thanks to the bioload?

That's a pretty cool goldfish tank, makes me want to build one too!

ikuzo · 11-23-2007, 12:58 PM

i add some micro ferts there once a week.

**dekstr** · 11-23-2007, 04:54 PM

Ohh okay, how come the goldies don't eat the plants?

**bsmith782** · 11-23-2007, 04:58 PM

what size is that tank, im thinking the "mystery illness" was nitrite/ammonia poisining, espicially if its a new tank. goldfish are super d"dirty " fish when it comes to the poop they release, it has a ton of ammonia in it.

mistergreen · 11-23-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dekstr

Ohh okay, how come the goldies don't eat the plants?

ikuzo chose the right plants... The plants are too tough for them to nibble on.

The goldfish died probably because of stress from overcrowding.

izuko:
watch your anubias. It's starting to turn yellow.. You might want to dose macros & micros... You do large water changes for the sake of the fish but the plants are suffering.

ikuzo · 11-24-2007, 12:47 AM

i used anubias, vallisneria, dwarf sag, bolbitis, and amazon swords.
the bolbitis and amazone swords didn't stand the high ammonia.

i tore the tank down anyway a week ago and moved it to second floor (i need the space for my new tiger tank). now i'm still too busy to set this tank again. it's in bare bottom state right now.

**Tdon1md** · 11-25-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bsmith782

what size is that tank, I'm thinking the "mystery illness" was nitrite/ammonia poisoning, especially if its a new tank. goldfish are super d"dirty " fish when it comes to the poop they release, it has a ton of ammonia in it.

Agreed! Your bio overload can and will cause "disease" (ammonia poisoning) and kill your fish. I surprised any survived the spike. Very nice looking tank, just way overstocked to begin with.

stagius · 12-12-2007, 04:02 AM

Some update please
I am planning to have a goldfish planted too

09-16-2007, 02:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
ikuzo Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,752	ok here are some updates, as you notice some of my goldfish are missing, unfortunately they died from some kind of disease anubias tied on woods __________________ Certainly take the advice of others but always, always be yourself - Eric Cantona My Tanks : 100 40 20 16 10 3 1

10-05-2007, 08:54 PM	#17 (permalink)
Johnny Relentless Algae Grower (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sunrise, FL Posts: 71	I think what BrnMix meant about harmful to plants is that if you saturate the water with air you can prevent CO2 from being absorbed into the water, and the plants need that to thrive and grow. I think that's the theory, anyway. Although since there is CO2 in the air as well, I'm not sure why an air stone wouldn't also put CO2 into the water. Probably oxygen just gets absorbed quicker than carbon dioxide. Of course, for non CO2 injection tanks plants are recommended that either grow past the water surface or float on it, because contact with air enables them to get the necessary CO2. __________________ Johnny Relentless, Sunrise, Florida 29G, with 12 hours of 65W light at 6700k, fluorite substrate, 12 ghost shrimp, a male Betta, and a female Betta, 6 Skirt Tetras, 3 Otos, 4 African Dwarf Frogs, a lot of Wisteria, some Ludwigia Repens, Java Fern, Java Moss, Riccia, Anacharis, Corckscrew Vals, Pennywort, Baby Tears, and Brazilian Sword Grass.

10-06-2007, 05:50 AM	#18 (permalink)
ikuzo Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,752	well i removed the airstone now and added DIY CO2 __________________ Certainly take the advice of others but always, always be yourself - Eric Cantona My Tanks : 100 40 20 16 10 3 1

10-07-2007, 03:03 AM	#20 (permalink)
ikuzo Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,752	hello Architect1, thanks. it's not impossible to combine goldfish and plants. the hardest thing is to balance the ferts / CO2 to prevent algae as the fish' bioload is a lot. __________________ Certainly take the advice of others but always, always be yourself - Eric Cantona My Tanks : 100 40 20 16 10 3 1

10-08-2007, 02:04 AM	#22 (permalink)
ikuzo Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,752	now i got one big fancy goldfish and 2 smaller ones. that explains the bioload __________________ Certainly take the advice of others but always, always be yourself - Eric Cantona My Tanks : 100 40 20 16 10 3 1

10-06-2007, 07:58 PM	#19 (permalink)
Architect1 Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: hamilton Posts: 320	Wow Amazing tank I would never think to see real plants in with gold fish. I thought they would move the stone around to much for plants. Nice tank and sorry to hear about your disease.

10-08-2007, 12:22 AM	#21 (permalink)
eon17 Banned (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Manhattan,Kansas Posts: 338	that looks like to many goldies!! I would say only 1 fancy in a 20g the rule is 20g ffor the first 10 for each extra

11-23-2007, 08:28 AM	#23 (permalink)
dekstr I am on temporary hiatus! (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,136	So you don't have to do any ferts thanks to the bioload? That's a pretty cool goldfish tank, makes me want to build one too!

11-23-2007, 12:58 PM	#24 (permalink)
ikuzo Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,752	i add some micro ferts there once a week. __________________ Certainly take the advice of others but always, always be yourself - Eric Cantona My Tanks : 100 40 20 16 10 3 1

11-23-2007, 04:54 PM	#25 (permalink)
dekstr I am on temporary hiatus! (View User Tanks) PTrader: (2) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,136	Ohh okay, how come the goldies don't eat the plants?

11-23-2007, 04:58 PM	#26 (permalink)
bsmith782 Anubis-X (View User Tanks) PTrader: (81) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St.Louis, MO Posts: 2,441	what size is that tank, im thinking the "mystery illness" was nitrite/ammonia poisining, espicially if its a new tank. goldfish are super d"dirty " fish when it comes to the poop they release, it has a ton of ammonia in it. __________________ FilStar proponent #91 I have a 2213 too and my Eheim # is 299. What now? cube and mini-m http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/pl...be-mini-m.html VP Member #4 "Regulator's Mount Up" VTS-253A

11-24-2007, 12:47 AM	#28 (permalink)
ikuzo Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Indonesia Posts: 1,752	i used anubias, vallisneria, dwarf sag, bolbitis, and amazon swords. the bolbitis and amazone swords didn't stand the high ammonia. i tore the tank down anyway a week ago and moved it to second floor (i need the space for my new tiger tank). now i'm still too busy to set this tank again. it's in bare bottom state right now. __________________ Certainly take the advice of others but always, always be yourself - Eric Cantona My Tanks : 100 40 20 16 10 3 1

12-12-2007, 04:02 AM	#30 (permalink)
stagius Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (17) Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: santa clara, CA Posts: 370	Some update please I am planning to have a goldfish planted too

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