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11-21-2011 07:01 AM
Jadelin If you get lucky your goldfish might not eat hornwort, and it looks similar to cabomba. My goldfish ignores it, but other people say it gets eaten. Depending on your lighting, it might grow too fast, but it's nice to have something that grows quickly in a low-light tank.
11-21-2011 01:10 AM
Gold Finger
Vals and....

Hey Crossbow. I am currently planting a goldfish tank and was wondering if you could suggest a plant which might work alongside my vals. I have seen a number of stoies like yours where only the Vals ended up surviving the goldfish longterm. I would really like to have a stem plant that looks kind of like cabomba to compliment the look of the vals. I want a fast grower. Nitrate consumption is a must. Currently, I am considering Asian Ambulia, Cabomba, and Water Violet.
12-06-2010 01:30 PM
crossbow buritne,

The only time I've had any ick issues, was when there was a large amount of fish stress. This was due in part to insufficient filtration for the tank in question. Goldfish are incredibly hardy, but they require an excessive amount of filtration, and an excessive amount of water volume to live healthy lives. They also require temperature stability, and are not cold water fish, as many people believe. Any significant amount of stress will usually cause an ick outbreak.

Generally you want roughly 10-20 gallons per goldfish in terms of water volume, and you want an utterly obscene amount of filtration. I run a Rena XP3 on my 46 gallon bowfront. (It's rated for 175 gallons). Goldfish are the aquarium equivilant of a cow. They can and will eat almost nonstop, and produce what seems like an endless amount of waste. (Leading cause of death to goldifsh, besides insufficient filtration, is overeating) Most of the reasons you can't have goldfish with many other fish types isn't that they wouldn't get along...it's that the other fish can't handle the pollution the goldfish make!

As for temperature, I run it at 74F with one of those 200 watt inline hydror's. Though goldfish are commonly thought to be cold water fish, they actually thrive in warmer temperatures. They can "tolerate" cold temperatures, but prefer warmer ones. Bottom of tank siphon and roughly 40-50% water change weekly. Once a month I break down the XP3 and rinse out the sponges, and replace the pre-filter if needed.

It's funny because goldfish are usually rated as "easy" fish to take care of...when in reality, they're quite difficult to take care of properly. With the proper setup and care, most goldfish will outlive the family cat or dog! (Keep this in mind when choosing the type of fish to take care of! Goldfish can live 20+ years!!!)

I eventually plan to move the goldfish to a larger tank, as they are getting gigantic now. Chomper is as big as my hand!

paybackranch,
Having just moved, I understand your pain. The Val's are just now starting to come back. I lost roughly 50% of them in the move. Was worried for a bit, but then I remembered it usually takes about 2 weeks or so for the plants to get out of their shock phase and back into growing bonkers.
12-03-2010 03:03 AM
paybackranch Thanks....I will contact them when the tank gets closer to being put together. I am planning a move in the next 4 weeks, so the tank is in an assembly mode right now. The move is cross country, so sometime after the first of the year I will put it together. I really enjoyed the photos of your tank! I have the same type of Vals....grow across the top and down of my 28 gallon bowfront also like yours. Weekly trimming. I may replace them with something shorter, although I love the lush look of them.
12-03-2010 01:33 AM
buritne My goldfish always get ick everytime i add another one, eventually i switched to tropical, does your goldfish ever get ick?
12-01-2010 09:17 PM
crossbow I bought it pre-built from Ahsupply. I should point out, their 96 watt kit is a bit too powerful for the 46 gallon. It's really powerful!
12-01-2010 09:05 PM
paybackranch Did you buy it prebuilt from AH Supply or did you build it with their specs? They have a DIY canopy page. Thanks....
12-01-2010 06:19 PM
urples dang, that's a pretty sweet tank. planning to start a tank soon, hopefully my plants grow like yours.
12-01-2010 05:23 PM
crossbow paybackranch,

Hey! Yes I got the canopy from ahsupply. I don't know if they make them anymore, at the time it was a perfect size for the tank. Even better, the plastic cover that fits with the original aquaclear light canopy, perfectly fits under the ahsupply hood, thus preventing splashes, and escapes!

I'll try to get some photos soon. The Val's took a beating, so the tank isn't exactly perfect right now....well that hasn't stopped me before, I might as well take some shots .
11-24-2010 07:41 PM
paybackranch
Another question.. this time about the hood / enclosure for the lights

Did you get the 'canopy' or hood from ahsupply? Was it part of the lighting retro-fit kit that you got?

I am looking to do something similar, but have found no 'commercially produced' canopies for bowfront tanks. Fishtanksdirect has complete sets, but I would rather use the stand that Petsmart is using on their 46 gallon glass tank (I have a matching one on my 28 gallon bowfront--its a girl thing, I guess), but there are no enclosed canopies sold singly, that I have found. I am a DIY kind of person, so if I can't find it, I may build something to keep the light from sneaking out between the tank and light fixture. I am also getting a clear back so I can change background colors. My 28 gallon bowfront has a mirror back and that is awesome.

Your goldfish are SO beautiful.....
11-24-2010 06:02 PM
Mellyn Can't wait to see new pictures! I love the goldfish, they're so cute and have great personalities.
11-24-2010 03:06 PM
crossbow Hey Payback,

I find that the openings do limit your ability to clean somewhat (unless you have long arms), and also limit the size of the items you can place in the tank. I have an awesome piece of driftwood that won't fit no matter how i turn it.

As such, I still enjoy the tank, and don't find the ability to clean "too" limiting.

We finally finished moving, and everyone survived, so will get some photos up after I get a chance to clean the tank this coming weekend.

Goldfish have gotten gigantic....going to need a new tank soon....
11-23-2010 01:06 AM
paybackranch
Question about the SeaClear cut-outs on top

First off, I loved this thread and the conversations. I have several planted tanks and have been looking at the 46 Bowfront by SeaClear myself. I was hesitant because of the small openings as I am a very manic planter / cleaner. Do you find this tank hard to keep clean inside (algae)? Has anyone changed the size of the openings? I do think that it is a stunning tank!
10-19-2010 09:29 PM
crossbow Hey Cheddar! Thanks for your comments!

Great news. We finally got a house! And it's a dream house! Most of the places we were looking at were 1300 sq feet...we ended up getting a monster sized 2000 sq foot end unit townhome in a great location. Just took 7 months of looking at homes every single day, with 3 failed bids, 1 awful situation, and lots of bank bs.

In the end it all worked out though, and we are in the process of moving to our new permanent home. (At least for 10-15 years).

The fish are doing great. The val's are doing great. I missed cleaning the tank this week, so I won't post any photos just yet. But everyone is alive and kicking, and the val's are hanging in there.

I have started prepping for the fish move. I'm setting up a bare 20 gallon long tank, with a heater and filter setup at the house. 50% of the water will be from the fishes own tank, the rest treated and ready. I'm going to put 2 fish in each 5 gallon painters bucket, with a battery powered air hose, and transport them to the 20L in the new home. Then I'll break down the 46, and move it over, while running the XP3 in a 5G bucket to keep all the bacteria happy.

If anyone has any tips or comments on moving fish, they'd be appreciated. But as of now, that's my main plan. The 20L tank should keep the 4 fish content for at least a few days, giving me some needed time to figure out the new tank setup/placement.

I don't know if I'm going to change out the blue gravel. I might just mix in the eco-complete and get a combo blue/black mix, with some minerals for the plants inter-dispersed. This will cut down on the break down time, and I won't need to mess with the plant roots as much, making the transisition easier.

As to your questions. I cut the val's because they end up growing right into the XP3 outlet, and bending over, messing with the tank flow. Also if I don't cut them, they take over the entire top of the tank. (As seen in some of the other photos). They grow extraordinarily fast. I didn't even dose any excel for the past 2 weeks and they've grown about 6 inches.

Glad you like the photos, it is crazy hard to get a good one. I think I get one good photo for 50 bad ones!
10-19-2010 08:10 PM
cheddar254 Awesome tank crossbow! Read the whole thread before but didnt comment afterwards Just had to comment this time to praise you on your awesome tank, goldfish, valls and Blue gravel Any updates on the house yet? and I would love to see how the tank looks now, Oh and just a suggestion why dont you let the valls grow long? looks a bit unnatural when they're cut so straight. Oh and P.S that picture of Showy picture of Fin on this page ( http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ta...project-6.html ) is now my background

Keep on doing what you doing
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