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12-30-2009 05:14 AM
HungrySpleen
new look again

im kinda likin' it this time now to let it grow perhaps?after spreading out chain sword of course


12-27-2009 05:53 AM
HungrySpleen
Quote:
Originally Posted by Twimbo View Post
If you have not yet seen this article, check it out. Its very useful.

http://freshaquarium.about.com/libra.../aa122203a.htm

Point #4 gives three basic design shapes for your tank. Right now, you don't have any of the three. Especially if you are a beginner, I recommend trying to get your plants into one of the mentioned shapes. Given the positioning of your driftwood, I'm thinking that your tank would lend itself to the concave layout - but, you need to pick what you think will work best.

Hope this helps.

By the way, congrats on the progress. Your tank is filling out nicely. Just need patience.
thanks for the link

honestly i just kinda stuck the stuff in there and hoped itd look good.
12-27-2009 05:08 AM
Twimbo If you have not yet seen this article, check it out. Its very useful.

http://freshaquarium.about.com/libra.../aa122203a.htm

Point #4 gives three basic design shapes for your tank. Right now, you don't have any of the three. Especially if you are a beginner, I recommend trying to get your plants into one of the mentioned shapes. Given the positioning of your driftwood, I'm thinking that your tank would lend itself to the concave layout - but, you need to pick what you think will work best.

Hope this helps.

By the way, congrats on the progress. Your tank is filling out nicely. Just need patience.
12-27-2009 01:34 AM
HungrySpleen
new pics of tank

old pic is first
dec2





dec26


sorry tanks dirty as heck but sunday is cleaning day and i wanted an some scaping ideas for then
any tips for moving stuff around now?
i need a few ideas to rescape now
the plants are
2 swords in back of driftwood and 1 in front
1baby tears
2 java ferns
pennywort in back cant see it
bunch of chain swords
3 water sprites
mycophylium of some kind
1 bunch of cabomba
3 hygros that arent doing anything cept looking bad
anacharis as wel not growing really
1 red tiger lotus
1 undulata with baby plant attached
1 dwarf hairgrass
1 tiny piece of hornwort

2 tiny unknown plants
12-08-2009 05:09 AM
HungrySpleen hey nismo what is the tanksize with diy co2? and how well would you say its working.

ive been dosing 3/4 cap excel every day and nitrate ,potassium , and comprehensive twice a week for 2 weeks now ,finally after 7 months things are growing like they should for the first time
12-08-2009 04:30 AM
nismo tetra I use the whole entire line of flourish ferts 3x a week and have root tabs scattered throughout the bottom. 5ml trace, 2ml comprehensive, 2ml iron, 2.5ml phosphorus, 1.25ml nitrogen, 4ml potassium, 2ml excel (10ml excel on WC day). At start up I did this schedule once a week. As they grow you will start to notice deficiencies, that is when I would start adding more(2x a week). I think my tank is good at 3x week as of now. The plants are growing out of the tank and I have no more algae issue after adding a tad bit more phosphorus. Not to mention the colors look healthy and the tenellus is throwing out plantlets like crazy, and stems need a trim once a week. Keep in mind I do a 50-60% WC weekly. Depending on what plants you have, you will want to add more iron. However, I have my dry ferts on order(N,P,K gh booster), but I will still be using the Flourish liquids for trace and Iron. I'm starting up another 20 gallon, so it was time for the wallet friendly ferts. I also use DIY co2 on this particular setup.
12-07-2009 10:49 PM
Twimbo OK, sounds like you are good. Flourish does sell something else, other than Flourish (Comprehensive) which they call Flourish Trace. Flourish (Comprehensive) covers the Micro nutrients, but not the trace nutrients. I've heard some folks suggest, that most of the trace nutrients are available in tap water, so they don't worry about it.

Do I sound like I know what I'm talking about? If so that good, because I'm still figuring this out as I go along.

Good luck.
12-07-2009 10:09 PM
HungrySpleen thanks for the info

i am using Flourish Comprehensive i understand this to be trace elements

also i have some flourite in my gravel so i believe i am OK for now with the iron part , aka only a few plants

myself, much like you, plan on going to dry ferts , im just waiting on the package to arrive and my seachem to run out

thanks again for the help im very new to this as well
12-07-2009 05:14 PM
Twimbo
Quote:
Originally Posted by HungrySpleen View Post
right now im dosing with seachem stuff
using
excel co2
potassium
trace
nitrogen

you think ive got it right until i get some dry ferts
OK, this is an area that I'm really just learning myself. I also use the Seachem stuff, for now. I bought some Pfertz liquid fertilizers (during their Thanksgiving sale), that I will use when the Seachem stuff runs out. Eventually, I suppose I'll also switch to dry ferts.

Having said that - I have heard, that using plain "Flourish" is probably more important than using the "Trace" stuff. The full Seachem regime would include: Excel, Iron, Flourish, Phosphorus, Nitrogen, Potassium, and Trace.

I know that there is some Iron in plain "Flourish," so I'm not sure if you MUST dose that separately. Also, I've seen a number of folks suggest that Trace is usually not necessary.

Your current regime seems to be missing both Iron and Phosphorus. However, I've heard that plants can get Phosphates from fish food - so you might be ok there.

If your plants are growing and looking healthy, then I think you have the right regime. If not, I would look at adding some Phosphates and/or Iron.

AGAIN - If someone smarter than me chimes in, you should probably listen to them - as, I'm still trying to figure this out myself.

Also - search for threads talking about Flourish or Liquid Ferts, I found this one that might be helpful:

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/lo...uid-ferts.html
12-07-2009 12:51 PM
elihanover I think it looks a bit sparce, but that';s because it hasn't had time to grow in. I think the hardest part of any planted tank is patience. Ifind that the more I touch things in my tank, the worse they get. At a certain point, I just have to leave it and wait.

As far as suggestions go, I would add some more rocks and/or wood. I think it's much easier to plan your plants if you have a solid hardscape.
12-07-2009 06:29 AM
HungrySpleen right now im dosing with seachem stuff
using
excel co2
potassium
trace
nitrogen

you think ive got it right until i get some dry ferts
12-07-2009 06:03 AM
Twimbo I think that you'll be surprised at the difference in just a few weeks. (check out how the growth has effected my 20g tank).
12-07-2009 05:50 AM
HungrySpleen i guess im gonna hurry up and start waiting then i guess

ill post some new pics in a month or so
12-07-2009 05:44 AM
Twimbo
Quote:
Originally Posted by nismo tetra View Post
anyways, I think the plants are just to small right now to tell. Once they start to grow and fill in, it will be easier to arrange them in the tank.
This is correct. You don't really have enough plants that are big enough, yet, to really do much. For it too look very good, you'll need to either get more plants, or simply let these plants grow for a while.

It will shape up over time. One thing you need (or must learn) with planted tanks, is patience.

I don't have it, so I'm trying to learn it......
12-07-2009 05:32 AM
HungrySpleen thanks for the tip im still pretty new to the forum thing
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