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05-21-2017 11:58 PM
clownplanted Very nice bro. Let me know next time you have a trimming please.


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05-21-2017 11:48 PM
Dempsey Here is another update. In the video you will see the next project to help support my plant hoarding.

https://youtu.be/vlcyghxRYUY
05-18-2017 09:52 PM
Dempsey Yeah, I guess it will just be trial and error on my part also...

On the plus side, since adding the k2s04 back to my dosing, my glass is spotless. Normally I would have some small spots on the glass a few times a week since starting the tank back up. Maybe this will help the AR also. Or, at least the older leafs.
05-14-2017 11:46 PM
burr740 Well even though my GH is 9 ish, its mostly Ca, 50 ppm and only 4 ppm of Mg. So I add another 5-10 ppm Mg with water changes. Could be the same deal with yours and why the GH booster helped. You likely only need one or the other though.

As for the micros, no idea what to tell you really. All I can say is AR specifically does better with lower micro levels.

By low I mean something like what Vin is dosing (in his Dutch tank with Aquasoil), or down to "Burr Level" which is .015 fe from csmb and .02 Fe dtpa 3x week.

But man all this new stuff coming out regarding edta, it's got me questioning everything that I thought I knew.

So all I can really say is what works pretty good for me and what hasnt.
05-14-2017 11:15 PM
Dempsey Hmmm.... So, right now with the new mix in a 500ml bottle, dosing 30ml 3x per week. Could easily be cut in half by dosing 15ml.

2tsp CSM+B
1/8tsp DTPA Fe 10% (May be 11%)
1/8tsp DTPA Fe 13% (Just because I have them both)

I was also planning on dosing 1/64tsp-1/32tsp of Ferrous Gluconate daily..

Also. 1/2tsp GH Booster after water change, even though my GH is 9-10... Just seemed to help.

What are your thought?
Thanks!
05-12-2017 11:38 PM
burr740 You probably have slightly better water than mine.

Just my opinion but if you are thinking about dropping micros from full EI down to 2/3 EI, I'd be willing to bet too much micros is what the AR isnt liking.

Check out Vin's Dutch tank. He's dosed more and less and all points in between. His AR mini didnt go perfectly flat until backing micros WAY down.

The latest page here has a good post on what he's currently dosing

Going Dutch with Aquasoil - Aquarium Plants - Barr Report
05-12-2017 11:29 PM
Dempsey
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~5.5
Sweet! Mine is 4. It must just be fert issues that I am dealing with
05-12-2017 11:27 PM
burr740
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what is your kh at? How close are we in water hardness? You are giving me hope! Lol
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05-12-2017 11:22 PM
Dempsey
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Good point Greggz

Clint my GH is about the same as yours, between 9 and 10 - 50 ppm Ca and 10 Mg

K doesnt raise dGH specifically. Not sure why its a common ingredient in GH boosters. I believe GLA just copied Barr's recipe but dont quote me on that.

Might be because K2SO4 is fairly hard to dissolve, like most Ca, which makes it tough to include a whole lot in a macro mix. Total speculation though
What is your KH at? How close are we in water hardness? You are giving me hope! lol
05-12-2017 10:48 PM
clownplanted
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New toy that @clownplanted recommended for the 20L that I am getting ready to start.





Before you know it you will go all led with your 75 once you see how great it is not having to replace bulbs [emoji6]


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05-12-2017 10:47 PM
burr740 Good point Greggz

Clint my GH is about the same as yours, between 9 and 10 - 50 ppm Ca and 10 Mg

K doesnt raise dGH specifically. Not sure why its a common ingredient in GH boosters. I believe GLA just copied Barr's recipe but dont quote me on that.

Might be because K2SO4 is fairly hard to dissolve, like most Ca, which makes it tough to include a whole lot in a macro mix. Total speculation though
05-12-2017 10:39 PM
Dempsey New toy that @clownplanted recommended for the 20L that I am getting ready to start.

05-12-2017 09:47 PM
Dempsey
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Clint most GH Boosters contain quite a bit of K. They are a combination of K2SO4, CaSO4, and MgSO4.

With GLA GH Booster, to raise your GH 2 dGH adds over 16ppm K.

More than likely the plants like the additional K not the hardness.
Thanks! That's makes sense but should I worry about the hardness?
05-12-2017 09:41 PM
Greggz
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The odd thing is, some plants seem to do better with extra GH Booster added even though the GH is 9-10...
Clint most GH Boosters contain quite a bit of K. They are a combination of K2SO4, CaSO4, and MgSO4.

With GLA GH Booster, to raise your GH 2 dGH adds over 16ppm K.

More than likely the plants like the additional K not the hardness.
05-12-2017 08:22 PM
Dempsey
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Yeah lots of folks get by just fine without it. That's why I wasnt too worried about it either.

But I dont dose a whole lot of KNO3 to begin with, 5-7 ppm 3x week. Along with .2 urea daily which obviously doesnt have any K.

Now Im back to adding enough K to equal the total NO3 in macro days, along with 5-6 ppm at water changes
I am about to mix up a batch of macro's... I will be going full EI again meaning adding k2so4 but 2/3's CSM. Let's hope for the best!

Not in the same bottle of course.. Thinking about adding ferrous gluconate daily though. Just trying to figure out how much.
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