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Today 03:05 AM
clownplanted
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Originally Posted by Dempsey View Post
Right now I am just using 2x 17 gallon rubbermaids that I had sitting around. I was thinking of just using 50% RO until I come up with a better method. This will bring me to 2KH and 5-6GH. I have 2lbs of GH booster also so I will be dosing that. I will be heating the water also. Though, It's not horribly cold. It's about 60 degrees and my tank water is now at 75 degrees. This fish may not like it if I don't heat it first...



I went cheap and got this



There is a ton of waste water..... I will have to upgrade with a water saver very soon. This is my first unit so I had no idea how much waste water there was.



With the new 20 long tank that I am starting today, I will be starting with 100% RO.


Those paramaters will be perfect for some CRS [emoji6]. If I ever get a RO unit it will be the bulkreefsupply one. Very nice. Really no need for one now but if I ever move and don't have as good water then that will be the one I get


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Today 01:46 AM
Dempsey Here are some shots just before lights out. Love the pearling. The Rotala pearl more than the others, always.





The new growth on the AR is looking okay. Looking forward to see how the RO water helps.

Yesterday 03:49 PM
Dempsey
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Originally Posted by Greggz View Post
Clint I don't what may be right or wrong, I can only tell you what I did. First change was 50% RO, next one was more like 75% RO, then all RO. Fish and plants were just fine. I don't have shrimp (yet) so don't know much about their care.

My general thought is that if you set out to kill/harm your fish/plants by blasting them with RO water, it would be a failure. They are both pretty resilient, and RO is just good clean water.

How are you going to store the RO water? Are you going to heat it? Dose for GH, KH targets? Just curious as to what kind of system you are putting together there.
Right now I am just using 2x 17 gallon rubbermaids that I had sitting around. I was thinking of just using 50% RO until I come up with a better method. This will bring me to 2KH and 5-6GH. I have 2lbs of GH booster also so I will be dosing that. I will be heating the water also. Though, It's not horribly cold. It's about 60 degrees and my tank water is now at 75 degrees. This fish may not like it if I don't heat it first...

I went cheap and got this

There is a ton of waste water..... I will have to upgrade with a water saver very soon. This is my first unit so I had no idea how much waste water there was.

With the new 20 long tank that I am starting today, I will be starting with 100% RO.
05-27-2017 09:32 PM
Greggz
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Originally Posted by Dempsey View Post
Hopefully the RO water helps!

The unit will be here today and I will be setting it up ASAP. I do 80% water changes on Sunday's. How much RO do you all think I should start with? 10 gallons? 20? I don't want to shock the fish, shrimp or plants....
Clint I don't what may be right or wrong, I can only tell you what I did. First change was 50% RO, next one was more like 75% RO, then all RO. Fish and plants were just fine. I don't have shrimp (yet) so don't know much about their care.

My general thought is that if you set out to kill/harm your fish/plants by blasting them with RO water, it would be a failure. They are both pretty resilient, and RO is just good clean water.

How are you going to store the RO water? Are you going to heat it? Dose for GH, KH targets? Just curious as to what kind of system you are putting together there.
05-27-2017 07:54 PM
Dempsey
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Originally Posted by Greggz View Post
Clint agree with Burr, Nelsonia is pretty bullet proof. A few times I have tried lowering macros, and have seen similar. The good news is once you have it happy again, you will have more than you can possibly deal with. It's a prolific grower.
Hopefully the RO water helps!

The unit will be here today and I will be setting it up ASAP. I do 80% water changes on Sunday's. How much RO do you all think I should start with? 10 gallons? 20? I don't want to shock the fish, shrimp or plants....
05-27-2017 01:27 AM
Greggz
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No idea what's up with the Nelsonia. It is absolutely bullet proof for me, high low whatever, doesnt care.

It looks like a macro issue though, simply because it's mostly lower leaves affected.
Clint agree with Burr, Nelsonia is pretty bullet proof. A few times I have tried lowering macros, and have seen similar. The good news is once you have it happy again, you will have more than you can possibly deal with. It's a prolific grower.
05-27-2017 01:02 AM
Dempsey
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Didnt you say 40 ppm Ca? Mine is 50 (confirmed by a Hanna photometer)

Hows the Mg? You'll want at least 5 -10 ppm along with 40 Ca. It's not going to hurt adding 5 ppm or so via Epsom salt regardless.

It made a big difference back when I first started it. My tap has 4 ppm and I add another 5-10 at water change, well 7 to be exact but I really dont think it matters much.
Yeah, 40ppm. I do have Epsom salt also but haven't added any. I really have to sit down and dial everything in...
05-27-2017 12:56 AM
burr740 Didnt you say 40 ppm Ca? Mine is 50 (confirmed by a Hanna photometer)

Hows the Mg? You'll want at least 5 -10 ppm along with 40 Ca. It's not going to hurt adding 5 ppm or so via Epsom salt regardless.

It made a big difference back when I first started it. My tap has 4 ppm and I add another 5-10 at water change, well 7 to be exact but I really dont think it matters much.
05-27-2017 12:45 AM
Dempsey
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Originally Posted by burr740 View Post
Sorta doubt 15 min of sun has anything to do with it.

AR thrives at lower micros. Too high levels, in many cases, causes twisted deformed leaves and algae on the bottoms. Not for everyone, but lots of folks besides just me.

Of course that's not the only possible cause. If everything else is thriving, especially Rotala sp, I would be hesitant to reduce micros too much. Maybe a 33% reduction just to see what happens.

Do you have any Osmocote plus? You could try pushing a few balls around it and see if that helps. Not gel-caps full, do individual balls with tweezers, 3-4 per plant.

No idea what's up with the Nelsonia. It is absolutely bullet proof for me, high low whatever, doesnt care.



It looks like a macro issue though, simply because it's mostly lower leaves affected.

Where those snails have been eating, that was either weak or damaged tissue. Has there been any improvement since you increased K?
The only difference I ave noticed since dosing the extra K has been clean glass and clean plants, besides the AR. Maybe the Ca is just way too high?

I am really looking forward to see if there is a difference with the RO water this week...

I do have osmocote plus. I can give that a shot also.
05-27-2017 12:34 AM
burr740 Sorta doubt 15 min of sun has anything to do with it.

AR thrives at lower micros. Too high levels, in many cases, causes twisted deformed leaves and algae on the bottoms. Not for everyone, but lots of folks besides just me.

Of course that's not the only possible cause. If everything else is thriving, especially Rotala sp, I would be hesitant to reduce micros too much. Maybe a 33% reduction just to see what happens.

Do you have any Osmocote plus? You could try pushing a few balls around it and see if that helps. Not gel-caps full, do individual balls with tweezers, 3-4 per plant.

No idea what's up with the Nelsonia. It is absolutely bullet proof for me, high low whatever, doesnt care.

It looks like a macro issue though, simply because it's mostly lower leaves affected.

Where those snails have been eating, that was either weak or damaged tissue. Has there been any improvement since you increased K?
05-27-2017 12:01 AM
Dempsey @burr740 what do you think of the Nelsonia canescens? Do you think it's too much micros, the sun issue or just adjusting to the tank?

05-26-2017 10:02 PM
Dempsey Here are a few more.





@burr740 Do you think this is from the sun or micro issue? Maybe just adjusting?

05-26-2017 09:40 PM
Dempsey
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Originally Posted by clownplanted View Post
If that is a mess then I give up. Wouldn't even know what to call mine. Yours looks great.


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When I say mess, I mean that the plants are just in there. Not placed in any real order. I plan to go dutch style so the disorganization and "unevenness" is driving me nuts.

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Originally Posted by Maryland Guppy View Post
Let it grow, it's hasn't reached the surface.
Then there will be more trimmings!
I know... I am starting to develop O.C.D. in my mid 30's.. lol Not that you can tell from this tank though. I also have plants stuffed in there that are going to be going in the 20 long.
05-26-2017 09:38 PM
clownplanted
Clint's 75 Gallon. High Tech Project Update 5/5/17

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Originally Posted by Dempsey View Post
Haha! True... Using Gimp is just too much of a PITA.... This is much easier. I will now be adding more pics

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Here is a test image that I just took. Such a mess... I am trying to let everything grow but I think that I may be making a mess of the tank on Sunday. I was trying to hold off until I get the 20 Long setup but it's driving me nuts.





If that is a mess then I give up. Wouldn't even know what to call mine. Yours looks great.


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05-26-2017 09:37 PM
Maryland Guppy Let it grow, it's hasn't reached the surface.
Then there will be more trimmings!
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