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05-01-2015 12:06 PM
Floris Read the entire thread, thank you very much and good job!

Im looking to start growing some anubias myself for a nice tank. I was wondering about some very practical matters, like how much water you have in the tank and whether you change your water often (or at all?). I suppose there must be enough water to fully submerge the heater at least? And does the pump fit underneath the buckets or do you keep it somewhere outside?

Thanks so much!
10-27-2014 07:59 PM
vanish 2 and a half months! Yes, I'm still chomping at the bit!

Mostly I'd like to hear your thoughts on why Ebb and Flow is better than the simple "stationary pots in water" setup.
09-15-2014 02:27 PM
vanish I gave you a month. Let's see it!
08-12-2014 06:13 PM
Gatekeeper It looks funky right now. Give me a few more weeks. I have experimented with a few things and I want to see if they work out or if I am just fooling myself.
08-12-2014 04:32 PM
vanish
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Its alive..... stay tuned.
I'm waiting!

27G black plastic tubs were on sale for $12 at HD. I picked up a couple for "storage" ...
07-29-2014 10:53 PM
Gatekeeper
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Sweet! I want to know more, but I think its all here already. Doubt I could convince my wife on this one though. Maybe if it were to simply "appear" in the basement with one of my old 55G. Alas, too many projects at the moment.
Its not that bad. Great way to harvest healthy plants.
07-29-2014 06:27 PM
vanish Sweet! I want to know more, but I think its all here already. Doubt I could convince my wife on this one though. Maybe if it were to simply "appear" in the basement with one of my old 55G. Alas, too many projects at the moment.
07-29-2014 05:11 PM
Gatekeeper Its alive..... stay tuned.
05-06-2012 02:27 PM
Gatekeeper
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BUMP...bringing this thread back because I too caught the emersed bug. Great setup Gatekeeper! I've learned so much just reading through this thread. I plan on growing mostly anubias once I set up a tank like yours. Any updates or words of advice about growing anubias emersed?
Oh wow! Sorry, I must have missed this post!

Glad the thread inspired you!! I still have it running, but it needs an overhaul badly. Needs to be ripped down, cleaned and redone with fresh plants.

Anubias are the easiest to keep and certainly what I would say is the best introduction plant to emersed plants. Great way to cultivate the plant without the nuisance of algae.

Moderate lighting is all you need. You must keep the anubias wet, so high humidity is a plus.

The best setup I had was in the beginning of this thread, when I had the fog system running in addition to the ebb and flow. Once the anubias rooted into the substrate into the trays, they took off. Literally. They grew so fast that I was taking some of them out every few weeks or so.

I choose the ebb and flow system because it offered a few things which I think are key. Allows me to put a heater in the sump water and keep the water at a good temperature. It also keeps the water moving, so nothing really gets funky from sitting around too long. The water itself is hidden from the light, so it minimizes algae from being introduced into the system. Working conditions and growing bed are easy to work with, pulling plants and replanting.

Some people use mist systems like the Mist King, which I think work great, but I have no experience yet with them. Soon maybe.
04-10-2012 11:36 PM
KingPlakat BUMP...bringing this thread back because I too caught the emersed bug. Great setup Gatekeeper! I've learned so much just reading through this thread. I plan on growing mostly anubias once I set up a tank like yours. Any updates or words of advice about growing anubias emersed?
11-14-2011 02:36 PM
DogFish That was very helpful. I new right away what the white pots were. Brillant idea! That was an engineering concern of mine, how to feed the water into the media without disturbing the media/plants too much.

I was considering raising the plant trays like you did and allowing some water level in the tank and put a small heater in that water to maintain temp/humidity. Then overflow the rest into a sump during the Ebb cycle.

I did see your fogger post, great idea.

Len, posted some info on rainy season growth for Bucephalandra, mine are emerged and being misted 2-3Xs a day and growing very well, makes me think a fogger would really be nice for them. I had also thought about those hydroponic mister heads run off a power head.

For you top delemma, keep an eye out for old broken aquariums on trash day. You might be able to recycle a nice pc of glass as a top for your system.
11-14-2011 01:58 PM
Gatekeeper Ahh! Important!

If you are going to do an ebb and flow and follow something similar to what I did, look at the picture you posted above. Those little white planting pots are very important. Originally, the water would just plunge into the trays, this would be a nightmare. It would just dig a huge crater into the soil over time. Those little pots act as a velocity break (a plunge pool if you will) and allows the water to just pound into it, but drizzle out into the tray at a non-erosive flowrate. I even use these little trays to add ferts from time to time.

Maybe I will try and shoot a video of this thing operating. Could answer a lot more questions for you.
11-14-2011 01:53 PM
Gatekeeper
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Any specific "if I new it then" advice?
Hmmm. Well, I got a bit lucky with a few things, but here are a few little tips.

First of all, keep in mind, its very easy to dismantle the system, so anything you may miss along the way, its not too hard to reverse yourself.

Ok, foggers! Do not use them unless they are in pure RO/DI water. Any tainted water source, ie tap water, will erode them over time and render them useless. However, they are AWESOME at creating a nice humid environment. I do have some thoughts on how to integrate them "cleanly" into this setup, I just haven't had the time to build it yet. I will follow up this journal though once I get some time to do it. FWIW, I grew some of my best plants when the fogger was running.

I have my planting trays elevated above the water in the tank. I did this so that the soil would fully drain and that it wouldn't wick the water up into the substrate. I elevated the trays by cutting up some 3" PVC pipe and laying the trays on top of these. I believe they are about 5" or so tall. This works great, but in the 75 gallon tank, that's a lot of height loss that would be great for some plant growth. I have to trim a lot as a result. So, if you have the ability, create the sump in a different container all together, or use a taller tank. I am in the process of potentially building up the sides of this tank. Again, something on my "to do list".

Lids for the top of the tank. The tank I have does not have a center brace, so the traditional glass tops will not work here. I just use two pieces of plexiglass as lids. PITA. They warp all the time and I have to flip them from time to time to keep them from warping too far. So, if you can get a better working top, it makes you life a lot easier.

Watch for bugs and critters!
11-14-2011 01:32 PM
DogFish Thanks, it's nice to get hobby specific feedback. Most of the hydroponic sites have plagiarized each other with the same basic info.

Any specific "if I new it then" advice?
11-14-2011 12:01 PM
Gatekeeper The planting media I use is a collection. Old substrates from old setups, such as eco complete, old gravel, mineralized soil, laterite, clay, ada powersand, etc. etc. Whatever is laying around.

Sometimes I add peat to the mix to get some acidity.

As far as the theory behind the nutrients being supplied by the water, I think this depends on the process you are using. However, I do dose the water from time to time, but I also add fertilizer sticks to the soil.

I don't really follow any "script". If plants need something, I add it. LOL.
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