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03-09-2014 12:51 AM
Vino Its been four days with eleveated heat (87-88f), and regular lighting- no meds.

So far my Black Tetras, the ones I believe smuggled the Ich in, still have a small amount of spots (maybe 5 each). My Neon tetras nowvhave some spots, very small, and a few each. But none of the other fish (Coreys, Otos, Green Tiger Barbs or shrinp and snails) are showing any signs.

Any suggestions?
03-05-2014 04:51 AM
LuckyCharm I have ich in my planted tank as well. Since last week I started using Kordon Ich Attack and I used the whole bottle (16Oz) and Ich is still present in my tank. As far as I can tell it kept the ich under control, the ich spots is only my Neon tetra now. None of my shrimps nor snails died.
I went and bought 2 more bottle, I hope it'll enough to cure it this time.
And I got these for 14.99 each from Petco
03-05-2014 03:59 AM
pantherspawn For me personally I reduced water changes at this point, the less the stress for the fish, the better. Once they show signs of getting better then I would start again with the changes back to normal. One week or two of no water changes shouldn't affect the tank too much unless your bio load is super high. Obviously monitor the water parameters and if you see anything unusual, then do a change.

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03-05-2014 03:48 AM
Vino One more thing. Should I be incresing my water changes during this process (high heat and air stone- no meds)?

I just did a water change last night (30-40%), and I do one of those once a week. Is it safe to continue as usual, or to increase the frequency?
03-05-2014 03:42 AM
Vino Thanks for the suggestions, ladies and gentlemen.

Seeing as though I already have a low tech tank (medium lighting, some liquid ferts and Excel- Not actual pumped in CO2), I will be going the route of no added chems from medications. Ill leave the heat up and an airstone in.

Im sure Ill have questions as things develop, and hopefully they wont develop negatively.
03-05-2014 03:01 AM
pantherspawn
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^^ That's why the Kordon's Ich Attack is a good option. All natural, nothing bad for fish, plants or inverts in it. No need to risk damaging plants with heat. And it works.
It's just a difference of opinion, but I would disagree. Adding any outside source to your tank is a bad idea. "all organic" or not. Ich is present in every tank. It's only under stress and bad water conditions that it becomes prevalent. Nothing gets rid of ich permanently, so In my opinion, it's best to avoid adding anything to your tank that shouldn't be there naturally. Because the chance of it affecting the balance of your contained echo system is just asking for trouble. Again, this is my opinion and can be taken or left.

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03-05-2014 02:47 AM
kman ^^ That's why the Kordon's Ich Attack is a good option. All natural, nothing bad for fish, plants or inverts in it. No need to risk damaging plants with heat. And it works.
03-05-2014 02:34 AM
pantherspawn Plants will recover.. A tank treated with chemicals will never again be chemical free. Just keep that in mind. My .02

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03-05-2014 02:11 AM
Aqualady I am currently getting rid of ich in my planted tank. At first, I turned the heat to 85 with airstone....but I woke up to some plants shedding leaves daily...of course I turned the heat back down and began dosing Kordon's Rid-Ich plus, 5ml per 10g. Although my repens suffered really bad, bad enough I had to cut all the way down.... I am happy to say the ich is about gone.....
03-05-2014 02:03 AM
pantherspawn Keep the heat up for a few weeks, around 89, and aerate the water. That's all you really need to do for ich. Monitor the fish and make sure to remove any that show severe signs into a qt tank that can be dosed with aquarium salt or meds.

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03-05-2014 01:59 AM
jrman83 Kordon Rid Ich + or Quick Cure has always worked for me and have had no effect on plants. No need to change temps. Usually gone by day 3, but you treat a full ich cycle (3-4 days) beyond last sign. Can't speak for danger to inverts though.
03-05-2014 01:52 AM
kman That should do it. There some who say salt helps also, but there's debate about that, and it's definitely harder on your plants (and inverts).

Seems like you caught it early so the Kordon's should be 100% effective. Check the instructions, though, not sure if you're supposed to combine with heat or not.

If your temps are in the mid-to-high 80s you should consider adding an airstone, as water that worm doesn't hold oxygen as well. (only need it while temps are high; yank it back out once all is well again)
03-05-2014 01:34 AM
Vino
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Not all plants are high temp friendly, but most would likely survive a short window like that. It'd have to be a pretty minor outbreak for a 3 day heat cycle to kill it. Most heat treatment regimens call for at least a week, or 3-4 days after the last spot disappears.

Today is the first day that I have spotted the SPOTS. And they are not too bad, only a couple spots per Tetra (the other fish inthe tank have no spots..yet).

I have turned up the heat to the mid to high 80s. Anything else I can do in the meantime until I can get some meds?
03-05-2014 01:31 AM
kman
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Assuming its ich won't get you very far. You should determine if it is in fact ich and then go from there.

Minor ich outbreaks can be easily treated by elevated temperatures (86-88) along with a 3 day blackout. NO salt or meds necessary. We do this at the shop when we get ich and so far we have 100% success rate.
Not all plants are high temp friendly, but most would likely survive a short window like that. It'd have to be a pretty minor outbreak for a 3 day heat cycle to kill it. Most heat treatment regimens call for at least a week, or 3-4 days after the last spot disappears.
03-05-2014 01:16 AM
Vino Ill look into the Kordans.

As for the black out, should I actually cover the entire aquarium so no ambient light gets in? Or does shutting off my light for 3 days constitute as a "blackout"?
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