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08-05-2015 02:18 AM
mattinmd I would agree there is quite a range of light tolerance on that list.. I've always taken it as "plants that someone managed to make work in low tech", and not strictly low light...

I've had good luck with rotala sp. green and rotala colorata in my 10 gallon tank at 38 PAR.. I've had bad luck with them in my main tank at 28 PAR, at least the ones my mollies didn't chew on end up growing weird.


There's a huge amount of variation in what people will call "low light" and "good growth" as Hoppy mentioned.. but there's also variation in the correct identification of plants which may be corrupting that list.

Was that HC really hemianthus callitrichoides, or did someone have a different plant like Hemianthus glomeratus and mistake the name? Or have Monte Carlo and fail to identify the difference (ok, monte carlo is newer than this list AFAIK, so maybe that isn't it).

In fact, it's really odd that HC, aka dwarf baby tears, is on that list, but HG, aka baby tears and a much less demanding plant, isn't...
08-04-2015 10:39 PM
Hoppy
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Originally Posted by micheljq View Post

Another issue maybe the perception some may think their low tech tank is low light while they effectively have medium or higher light.

Michel.
That was a major problem when virtually no one used PAR meters to find out how much light they really had. And, the list came from that period of time. Also, plants need less light if they have a good amount of CO2 in the water, so plants that do well with low light for people using CO2, may do poorly for people who don't use CO2. It is a little more complicated than the list here suggests it is.
08-04-2015 05:24 PM
micheljq I think anubias could grow, slowly, with just the natural light in a house.

Egeria densa, is really, really undemanding, it did grow up like mad in my low light tank.

A lof of crypts are quite forgiving.

Ceratopteris thalictroides too, in my low light tank, was growing like mad and doing baby plants all the time, and it was rooted to the bottom, not even floating.

Maybe it was already told, i did not look at all the posts.

However i do have some issues with some plants in the list in post no. 258.

Bacopa caroliniana is not a low light plant, it will just grow leggy and ugly, if at all.
Bacopa monnieri too.
Hygrophila polysperma was struggling in my low light tank and i lost it.
Same for ludwigia repens, struggling, ugly, full of algae.
Rotala rotundifolia same as ludwigia repens in low light in my tank.
Cabomba caroliniana requires a minimum of light, hardly a low light plant, limnophila sessiflora would be better, less demanding, and the look very similar.
Hydrocotyle leucocephala, yes if floating but not floating in low light, it did die.
Riccia fluitans, floating yes, not floating i doubt it.

From my little experience for what it is worth. My low light tank was a 24" high one with one led fixture Beamswork third generation (121 - 0,2w leds 10000K). It did ran for 8 months.

Another issue maybe the perception some may think their low tech tank is low light while they effectively have medium or higher light.

Michel.
08-03-2015 06:27 PM
jblah Thanks for making this list. Exactly what I was looking for.
07-13-2015 11:50 AM
GadgetGirl Being as this is a low light plant list in the low tech forum, I don't think it would be that difficult, for an expert, that is. Presumably no one here would be using CO2.
07-03-2015 06:52 PM
Hoppy
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Originally Posted by todvan View Post
How about developing a list of plants in order of general light tolerance starting from the lowest?

Java Moss
All Anubias
All Java Fern
Lotus?
?
It would be difficult to develop that list. For one thing, CO2 lowers the light needs of most plants - high CO2 allows the plants to grow with less light than it takes with little CO2. To make a usable list we would have to agree on what "low light" means, what amount of CO2 the list is based on, and what we consider as "good" growth for a plant. And, there are hundreds of different plants to consider.
07-03-2015 04:32 PM
todvan How about developing a list of plants in order of general light tolerance starting from the lowest?

Java Moss
All Anubias
All Java Fern
Lotus?
?
06-09-2015 07:11 PM
Hoppy The list should be seen as an opinion, which is not necessarily correct. For example, HC- Hemianthus callitrichoides will not grow well at all without CO2 and with low light. And, many of the stem plants listed will grow, but will be a big disappointment, with low light and no CO2 or Excel.

When this list was started, and added to, people were judging light intensity solely by watts per gallon, without even a universal agreement on what watts per gallon meant low light. We have progressed considerably since then.
06-09-2015 05:23 PM
ebrammer252
Approved?

Is this list still considered a good directory of plants to grow in low/med light with no co2?

Quote:
Originally Posted by James From Cali View Post
Added Ceratopteris siliquosa and Hygrophila balsamica. I am also going to experiment with Myriphyllum mattogrossense, Shinnersia ricularis, Cardamine lyrata, and Nymphoides sp. Taiwan.

B=Background,M=Midground,F=Foreground,FL=Floater,A =Anywhere,

FERNS & MOSSES
A-Marimo Ball- Cladophora aegagrophila
B-African Water Fern - Bolbitis heudelotii
B/FL-Watersprite - Ceratopteris thalictroides
B/FL- Thread Leaf Watersprite - Ceratopteris siliquosa
A-Pheonix Moss - Fissidens fontanus
A-Singapore Fissidens-Fissidens sp. "Singapore"
A-Zipper Moss - Fissidens zippelianus
A-Willow Moss - Fontinalis antipyretica
M-Wavy Leaf Java Fern- Microsorum pteropus undulata
M-Tropica Java Fern-Microsurm pteropus 'tropica'
M-Philippine Java Fern - Microsorum pteropus 'Philippine'
M-Java Fern - Microsorum pteropus
M-Red Java fern - Microsorum pteropus "red"
M-Windelov Java Fern - Microsorum pteropus 'Windelov'
M-Narrow Leaf Java Fern - Microsorum pteropus v. 'narrow leaf'
M-Needle Leaf Java Fern- Microsorum pteropus 'needle leaf'
A-Pellia - Monosolenium tenerum
A-Mini Pellia - Riccardia chamedryfolia
F/FL-Riccia - Riccia fluitans
A-Round Pellia - Süßwassertang
A-Flame Moss - Taxiphyllum alternans
A-Java Moss - Taxiphyllum barbieri
A-Peacock Moss - Taxiphyllum sp. 'peacock'
A-Taiwan Moss - Taxiphyllum sp.
A-Singapore Moss - Vesicularia dubyana
A-Christmas Moss - Vesicularia montagnei
A-Erect Moss - Vesicularia reticulata
F-Water Clover - Mariselia minuta
F-Marsilea hirsuta
F-Four Leaf Clover - Mariselia quadrifolia

STEM PLANTS
B-Waterwheel Plant - Aldrovanda vesiculosa
B-Bacopa - Bacopa caroliniana
B-Moneywort - Bocapa monnieri
B/FL-Hornwort - Ceratophylum demersum
B/F-LWatersprite - Ceratopteris thalictroides
B/FL-Anacharis - Egeria densa
B-American Waterweed- Elodea canadensis
F-HC- Hemianthus callitrichoides
B-Stargrass - Heteranthera zosterifolia
B/FL-Brazilian Pennywort - Hydrocotyle leucocephala
M-Water Pennywort - Hydrocotyle ranunculoides
B-Ceylon Hygro - Hygrophila polysperma 'Ceylon'
B-Giant Hygro - Hygrophila corymbosa
B-Water Wisteria - Hygrophila difformis
B-Fine Leafed Wisteria- Hygrophila balsamica
B-Green Hygro - Hygrophila polysperma
B-Sunset Hygro - Hygrophila polysperma 'Rosanervig'
B-Dwarf Ambulia - Limnophila sessiliflora
B-Red Ludwigia- Ludwigia repens
B/FL-Parrots Feather - Myriophyllum aquaticum
B-Guppy Grass - Najas guadalupensis
F/M-Downoi - Pogostemon helferi
B-Rotala Indica - Rotala indica
B-Rotala Rotundifolia - Rotala rotundifolia
B-Rotala Rotundifolia sp. Green - Rotala rotundifolia sp. 'Green'
B-Combomba - Combomba carolina

FLOATERS
B/FL-Hornwort - Ceratophylum demersum
B/F-LWatersprite - Ceratopteris thalictroides
B/FL- Thread Leaf Watersprite - Ceratopteris siliquosa
B/FL-Anacharis - Egeria densa
B/FL-Brazilian Pennywort - Hydrocotyle leucocephala
B/FL-Parrots Feather - Myriophyllum aquaticum
FL-Duckweed - Lemna minor
FL-Red Root Floater - Phyllanthus fluitans
F/FL-Riccia - Riccia fluitans
FL-Giant Slavinia - Salvinia molesta

CRYPTOCORYNE
M-Crypt Affinis - Cryptocoryne affinis
B-Crypt Aponogetifolia - Cryptocoryne aponogetifolia
B-Crypt Balansae - Cryptocoryne balansae
M-Crypt Becketii - Cryptcoryne becketii
M-Crypt Lutea - Cryptocoryne lutea
F-Micro Crypt - Cryptocoryne petchii
F-Pygmy Crypt - Cryptocoryne pygmaea
B-Crypt retrospiralis - Cryptocoryne retrospiralis
B-Crypt spiralis - Cryptocoryne spiralis
M-Crypt Walkeri - Cryptocoryne walkeri
M-Crypt Wendtii - Cryptocoryne wendtii
M-Crypt Willisi - Cryptocoryne willisi
F- Crypt Parva - Cryptocoryne parva
M- Crypt Pontederiifolia - Cryptocoryne pontederiifolia

ANUBIAS
M-Anubias barteri - Anubias barteri
M-Anubias barteri 'marble' - Anubias barteri 'marble'
M-Coffee leaf anubias - Anubias barteri v. 'coffeefolia'
A-Marbled Nana - Anubias barteri nana 'Marble'
M-Anubias barteri v. 'glabra' - Anubias barteri v. 'glabra'
A-Golden nana - Anubias barteri v. 'nana golden'
A-Anubias nana - Anubias barteri v. 'nana'
M-Narrow leaf nana - Anubias barteri v. 'nana narrow leaf'
A-Petite nana - Anubias barteri v. nana 'petite'
M- Minima
B-Hastifolia - Anubias hastifolia
B-Barteri Round Leaf - Anubias barteri v. ‘Round Leaf’
B-Gigantea - Anubias gigantea
B-Congensis - Anubias congensis
B-Lanceolota - Anubias lanceolota
M-Gracilis - Anubias gracilis
M-Anubias Barteri v Angustifolia - Anubias barteri v angustifolia
M-Caladiifolia -Anubias barteri v Caladiifolia
M-Anubias Afzelli - Anubias afzelli

SWORD PLANTS
B-Amazon Sword - Echinodorus amazonicus
B-Ruffle Sword - Echinodorus major
M-Melon Sword - Echinodorus osiris
M-Tropica Sword - Echinodorus parviflorus 'Tropica'
M-Red Flame Sword - Echinodorus 'Red Special'
F-Pygmy Chain Sword - Echinodorus tenellus or Helanthium tenellum
B-Uruguay Amazon Sword - Echinodorus uruguayensis
B-Argentine Sword - Echinodrous argentinensis

LILY'S
F-Lotus- Nymphaea pubescens M-Tiger Lotus - Nymphaea zenkeri

GRASSES
F- Dwarf Hairgrass - Elocharis acicularis
B- Giant Hairgrass - Elocharis montevidensis
B-Water Celery- Vallisneria americana
B-Contortion Val - Vallisneria asiatica
B-Vallisneria natans
B-Valliseneria rubra
N-Corkscrew Val - Vallisneria tortifolia
M-Dwarf Sag- Sagittaria subulata
B-Crinum calimistratum
B-Onion Plant - Crinum thaianum
F-Micro Sword - Lilaeopsis braziliensis
B-Crinum aquatica

APONOGETONS
M-Aponogeton ulvaceous
B-Aponogeton bouvianus
B-Aponogeton crispus
B-Aponogeton elongatus
B-Aponogeton undulatus
B-Rigidifolius - Aponogeton rigidifolius
05-24-2015 01:39 AM
Kt-Radi0 Very helpful. Thank you
05-16-2015 10:31 AM
sindy777 I'm loving this list!!!!!!
01-15-2015 02:41 PM
morfeeis Thank you, this list was very helpful.....
11-11-2014 11:19 PM
Corrie
Limnophila indica

Limnophila indica needs to be on this list.........
09-23-2014 02:11 AM
Fishermike @dpod: many of us here don't use soill in our tanks. Root-tabs are your friend!
09-22-2014 10:36 PM
dpod I'm loving this list- I just set up a low-tech tank and I'd love to add more than the crypts, vals, and anubias nana that's in there now. However, I'm thinking I should've added soil. Do you have any suggestions for fertilizing a simple gravel-bottomed tank?
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