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01-03-2012 08:07 PM
knuggs
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Originally Posted by diwu13 View Post
Hope you don't end up with all females o.O Or your tigers might end up breeding with the aura blues, might be interesting to see what comes out of it. Where are you going to house the pumpkins? Or are you going to let them mix with the yellows?
Im going to keep them all seperate.
01-03-2012 04:38 AM
knuggs The brown stuff is Sera Super Peat I used probably 300g of it. It will eventually sink to the bottom. The writing is me keeping track of the ph in different scenarios. I dont think it would be that acidic. Would definitely be nice to see how low it was though. Gotta get some food tomorrow, I see what the lfs has. Not sure how many test will go under 6.2. Maybe I could try a airstone to bump it up a lil.
01-03-2012 01:32 AM
diwu13 What's all that brown crap on the top of the tank? And the writing on the glass o.O

And I'd definitely get a more accurate pH kit. You don't want the pH in there to be like 5 and have the shrimps die in an acid bath
01-03-2012 12:30 AM
knuggs Heres some new pics of the tank, def not a show tank. I hope its ready for the Auras. I managed to get the ph below 6.2 my test doesnt go any lower than that, so not really sure of the actual ph. I used some superpeat, its suppose to be for the filter but I said f it and threw it in the tank.





12-31-2011 01:43 PM
diwu13
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Originally Posted by knuggs View Post
This is my first time with picky shrimp. I only bought 2 just in case. I almost bought a whole dozen on a impulse buy but luckily came to my senses in time. So Im gettin some super tigers, pumpkins, and yellow shrimp as well. Which I already have yellows, just wanted to thicken the gene pool.
Hope you don't end up with all females o.O Or your tigers might end up breeding with the aura blues, might be interesting to see what comes out of it. Where are you going to house the pumpkins? Or are you going to let them mix with the yellows?

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My tap water is ~20 tds, 6 pH and 0 gh 0 kh. Nothing like having RO from the tap :P
Wow... I thought mine was good. Your tap is like perfect. Do you still use an RO unit Liam?

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Not to derail this thread, but thank you Diwu13.
Makes me wonder how high or low their co2 injections were now as I haven't seen any adverse effects on my end. But again, my injections are incredibly low as I run low light set-ups for em.

Definitely something to ponder about now with future set-ups. I may test this theory :-D

Thanks!
No problem! I'm sure your shrimp are breeding fine. But in this case Knuggs has really really expensive and picky shrimp so I think breeding would be a top priority.

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If the Tom is Tom Barr I would believe it, plus Im sure Nikki would would know as well. But always fun to experiment yourself. You never know. Definitely some useful information.
Yea, I did quote that from Tom Barr :P. And then Liam and Nikki the shrimp experts too !
12-31-2011 04:22 AM
knuggs
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Originally Posted by mordalphus View Post
My tap water is ~20 tds, 6 pH and 0 gh 0 kh. Nothing like having RO from the tap :P
Nice, Im a lil envious

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Originally Posted by Ebichua View Post
Not to derail this thread, but thank you Diwu13.
Makes me wonder how high or low their co2 injections were now as I haven't seen any adverse effects on my end. But again, my injections are incredibly low as I run low light set-ups for em.

Definitely something to ponder about now with future set-ups. I may test this theory :-D

Thanks!
If the Tom is Tom Barr I would believe it, plus Im sure Nikki would would know as well. But always fun to experiment yourself. You never know. Definitely some useful information.


I wouldnt mind hearing from anyone who has kept Aura Blues or tried and what their experience was like?
12-31-2011 04:07 AM
Ebichua Not to derail this thread, but thank you Diwu13.
Makes me wonder how high or low their co2 injections were now as I haven't seen any adverse effects on my end. But again, my injections are incredibly low as I run low light set-ups for em.

Definitely something to ponder about now with future set-ups. I may test this theory :-D

Thanks!
12-31-2011 03:48 AM
mordalphus My tap water is ~20 tds, 6 pH and 0 gh 0 kh. Nothing like having RO from the tap :P
12-31-2011 03:35 AM
knuggs Wish I had tap water like that! Yeah Im gettin my RO water from the lfs for the meantime. Not so bad since its only a 10g.

This is my first time with picky shrimp. I only bought 2 just in case. I almost bought a whole dozen on a impulse buy but luckily came to my senses in time. So Im gettin some super tigers, pumpkins, and yellow shrimp as well. Which I already have yellows, just wanted to thicken the gene pool.
12-31-2011 02:44 AM
diwu13 I can't keep anything picky LOL. Still attending grad school and I live in an apartment so I don't really wanna invest in an RO unit... yet. My tap is quite soft though, ~150TDS which I hear is pretty darn good. My tap has quite high kh and gh as well. But I don't use buffering substrate either. So it's safest to just go with neocaridina or other non-picky shrimp like regular tigers.

Wish you best of luck with Aura Blues. Have you kept any other pickier shrimp before?
12-31-2011 02:31 AM
knuggs Hmm good to know, thanks diwu! Just shut off the co2 and added the super peat and did a water change. Have you ever tried aura blues? Feels like a total gamble right now but keeping the faith.
12-31-2011 02:05 AM
diwu13
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Originally Posted by Ebichua View Post
Source?
There's quite a few. You can do a search "CO2 shrimp" in this forum. Or here's a few

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...o2-shrimp.html
Liam
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Definitely effects breeding, as Tom said, the more co2, the less babies. I'm not sure whether it is from carbonic acid eating their shell or just making it hard for their blood to expel co2, but it definitely effects the amount of babies that survive.
Tom
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It reduced the no# of brood produce I'm fairly certain.
I've had them in both non cO2 and CO2 enriched tanks. They will breed like flies in either tank, but you will get higher production without CO2. This was even more the case with CRS.
And the main source: http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...o2-shrimp.html from Nikki
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It is a common fact amongst shrimp keepers, that co2 slows down the breeding of shrimp. It has been stated over and over again.

For instance in my 23G Rimless. I run all the same things in my 33, however, I do not use co2 in this. I have 10 times more RCS in the 23G tank, versus the 33 gallon tank. The 23G was set up 4 months after the 33 gallon, with only 5 RCS, whereas the 33 had about 30+ rcs to start.

Same ferts, same photoperiod, same TDS at this point as well. However, the 23G is kept at 81 degrees versus the 33 which is kept at 72. Outside of that, there is really no difference. However, I highly doubt that, as RCS do better at temperatures of about 72, not 81. How would I know? My PFR breed prolifically in my 'control' tank that gets no ferts and no co2 as the other 2 do. It too has the same TDS. Is this coincidence? Possibly, however, I have done the research in regards to my tanks. Now it could all be based off of pH, but that is also linked to co2 as well. So who knows. I can only vouch that it does seem to do something in regards to breeding in my tanks.

This is will be a subject that is contentious, however, I believe that co2 doesn't 'stunt' a colony in anyway, but can cause breeding to be slower then those without co2.
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I have kept co2 in my shrimp tanks before without any problems. Granted I run them pretty low, just enough for healthy moss/liverwort growth and nothing more.

co2 dosage is fine, you just need to be smart about it and not overdo it.
I'm not saying don't use CO2. I'm saying if it's mainly a shrimp tank don't use CO2 as it will cut back breeding.
12-31-2011 01:58 AM
diwu13 Yea, after you introduce them with the CO2 off, you can slowly increase the CO2 back up to any level you feel appropriate. However, if you were to reintroduce more shrimp down the line, now you have to ramp it back down. If you just suddenly stop that stress might also kill them.
12-31-2011 01:56 AM
Ebichua
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Originally Posted by diwu13 View Post
Er... if your main goal is to raise Aura Blue shrimp I definitely would not use the CO2. Nikki showed CO2 will definitely affect shrimp, whether it be breeding or otherwise.
Source?
I have kept co2 in my shrimp tanks before without any problems. Granted I run them pretty low, just enough for healthy moss/liverwort growth and nothing more.

co2 dosage is fine, you just need to be smart about it and not overdo it.
12-31-2011 01:24 AM
knuggs So, I can have consistant CO2 running after they have been in there awhile without it then ramp it up and be able to keep it consistent?
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