|12-03-2013 06:01 PM|
It may seem more challenging to dose for deficiencies but it's really not. For example, if I see plants loosing color or leaves start changing shape, I don't dose per that deficiency, I just dose an EI amount of everything, or some Flourish Comprehensive and wait until the next time.
The same idea would apply to a lower light tank with CO2. But at that point, you may as well jump up to 30PPM because there is no reason not to. The downside is that you likely need to start dosing daily or atleast routinely.
CO2 in an otherwise low tech setup is actually a really easy way to get a really lush, easy to deal with tank. Sounds great and it can be if you are content to limit your plants. CO2 will not make up for lack of light so you won't get intense reds or get a plant that can't carpet in the amount of light you have to carpet. So, you have that limitation. I have found that their are plenty of red plants that don't need a ton of light, as well as plants that carpet well without a ton of light. It's a great way to go. However, once you are in the hobby long enough, and have the equipment to do more, it's hard to set limits on yourself. I often consider going this route.
My personal problem is that I am very stubborn, yet fairly patient which makes it easy for me to make my life harder. Going low tech for a bit was probably the first time in a while in this hobby where I said, hey, this could be easier and did so, but I new I would have to change out some plants long term. That's probably where this tank will come together as well, once I start getting sick of plants that are not doing well, find an easier substitute. That's really the way to go for a long term type scape anyway.
Hope that makes sense, if you look at my 6 gallon, you will see that my tank never has algae but I also never clean it, and rarely fertilize it. I just need to find a go to carpet plant besides Riccia as that hasn't stayed down well long term and adds a ton of maintenance. I could use moss as well, just not a huge fan of moss myself.
|12-03-2013 02:02 PM|
Would it work if you hook up Co2 and just had a lower bps? Sort of like a low tech with a boost of stable Co2, I'm thinking the added Co2 can't hurt.
What kind of fertilizers are you adding? Would the ADA Soil and the fish food be enough for a low tech?
I'm starting to think low techs are harder to do then high.
|12-02-2013 06:03 PM|
Anyway, that said, R. macrandra has always been an extremely hard plant for me to grow over the years. I want to blame my water but I have seen more than a few people grow this plant well in my area so I know it's possible. I am not any expert at growing red plants in general so I don't even want to guess what my issues are but I think it's excess ferts right now.
|12-02-2013 12:43 AM|
You could, if you wanted, put back on the T5 and raise it up maybe 6 inches and heavily dose a liquid carbon. The macrandra will respond much better to that, IMO. I think the problem with the macrandra right now is co2/carbon related. It appears to me that the leaves are constricted and very thin. A carbon source with the light you have now would help tremendously in color, shape, and overall health of the plant.
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|12-01-2013 09:55 PM|
Ok, so here is the last low tech picture as I hooked back up my autodoser and took of my Coarlife light. I will be running 2x24 watt T5HO. I will continue the same fert routine for now, but make sure to keep up on water changes. The tank is 100% algae free right now so it should be more obvious what the problems are. I actually have not cleaned the tank once since pulling the co2, ferts, and lighting. The otos cleaned it for me.
One thing that is bugging me is the color change, just from the lights. The R. macrandra looks super dull, worse than the pictures. I hope it colors up more but I may need to start saving up for new bulbs, at least on my main bank.
I do need to do a small maintaince trim as some plants are coming back quicker than others and I also may need to thin some out. Here it is as of today:
|11-26-2013 03:44 AM|
Ok, way to many words from me in this tread but I would love some guidance.
I am using R. macrandra as an "indicator plant". Though some has really intense red and has an awesome compactness to it, some is loosing color. I am not trying to jump back on the high tech bandwagon quite yet, I do want to see how this goes but I feel going back to high tech is inevitable anyway.
I have never been that great at growing colorful plants in high tech. Especially with a raised fixture. Even with low light, plants will grow red when an inch from the fixture.
My question/inquiry is what dosing method is your favorite? When I started, EI was the only one I understood that didn't use test kits and all that. Everyone who did differently had a lot of experience. We we all making are tweeks to EI and that was about it. Now we have a lot more going on.
|11-25-2013 07:43 PM|
|Bserve||Go with the hydrocotyle|
|11-25-2013 05:15 PM|
|11-25-2013 05:06 PM|
|11-25-2013 04:46 PM|
|talontsiawd||Oh, OK, haha. I am still deciding between Echinodorus tenellus and Hydrocotyle japan. The Echinodorus tenellus is developing nice red veins in the leaves so that was a front runner but the Hydrocotyle japan is growing crazy small leaves now that I am low tech, around the size of glosso so I like that. However, I don't think the Hydrocotyle will carpet under current lighting so if I keep it, I will have to trim it about once a week or every two weeks.|
|11-25-2013 04:06 AM|
^ Yes I know, I was trying to be funny. Canadian humour is very dry I suppose.
I'm guessing you will do another HC Cuba carpet for this tank?
|11-24-2013 06:41 AM|
|11-24-2013 06:30 AM|
|FlyingHellFish||That Coralife sound good for a low tech. There are stories of people with HC Cuba carpet with low tech. The legend says, HC Cuba can be done with excel and low light. Merely whispers among the older crowd of hobbyist, but a thought none the less.|
|11-23-2013 11:15 PM|
I am also thinking about trying my old fixture at 2x24 T5HO. I may run into algae issues. My fixture is adjustable from right off the rim to about 7 feet over the tank so I have some wiggle room there haha. It's just getting it setup up and this other solution seems to be working.
I don't know, as much as I am not a fan of Coralife anymore, this seems to be working and the fixtures are really low profile so I do think it would compliment the look of the tank.
Anyway, lengthy post but I think I am covered for any light level between what I already have. I don't want to experiment until after my plants recover from the trim.
|11-23-2013 10:44 PM|
|FlyingHellFish||Could you use some desktop lamps for lower light? Maybe two lamps with 13watts bulbs? The wife might not like the idea though, they look a bit tacky to use on anything beside a desk.|
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