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10-17-2007 01:16 PM
turbowagon Thanks for the comments!

BiscuitSlayer - I'm pumping in a lot of CO2, around 3-4 bps... my fish and shrimp seem to have gotten used to it, but snails have a hard time surviving. I'm using a glass diffuser beneath a powerhead. Good luck with the pressurized system... every tank is different and it takes some time finding the right amount of CO2.

Ernie - I think you're right on with the big-leaved stems making the tank look small. I'll let you know if I decide to try the marselia. Thanks!
10-08-2007 12:54 PM
esarkipato Turbo, wow you have some incredibly healthy growth! Colors are just perfect. I also am incredibly impressed with that fissidens - amazing. I never had much luck with the R. 'Goias' either. If you ever want some marselia just lemme know. I can yank a bunch with no problems.

Funny you should mention about the tank looking small - I think you are right. The stems you are using are all fairly big-leaved stems. The L. 'cuba', Micr. Umbrosum, and Alt. Reineckki (I think those are right...?) are all stems I had kept in my 29, and they really contribute to the small feel. I might suggest some blyxa, HM, or other rotalas/ludwigias with narrow-smaller leaves.

But hey, stick with success and I'd say your current plants are a screaming success!
10-07-2007 05:15 AM
BiscuitSlayer I have a question about your CO2. How many bps are you pumping in. I have finally bitten the bullet and bought a pressurized system. First day I had it on, I killed one of my cardinals because I was pumping in too much (about 2 - 3 bps). I immediately cut it back to about 1 bubble every 3 to 4 seconds and have had no further casualties. I just added a comparable amount of plants to my tank though, and it is also a 29G.

You have a nice looking tank man. I look forward to seeing future updates.
10-07-2007 03:20 AM
Subotaj your fissidens fontanus is AWSOME!
10-05-2007 11:42 PM
zergling With the background that you have, you can easily get away with just putting the heater where it is not easily seen. My friend placed his heater on the back horizontally behind the driftwood, and the plants covered the wire nice. Although it is nice to get the heater out of the tank so you can adjust the temp without getting wet

A centerpiece fish will work, and so does having a visible group of schooling tetras/rasboras/whatever. Whichever you pick, I'm sure it'll improve the tank
10-05-2007 08:02 PM
turbowagon O.S. - Thanks! I really wish the Rotala sp. "Goias" would take off, because I think the tank would look much better with an established foreground.

Zerg - thanks for the advice... I've been meaning to get one of those inline heaters, and you're right. The tank does look small in these pics. I need a centerpiece fish or two for the tank... right now I only have a school of Pristella Tetras and a bunch of cherry shrimp.
10-05-2007 08:01 PM
zergling looks great!

if you don't mind, I have some thoughts....

can you place the heater somewhere where it is not easily seen? perhaps beside the filter inlet?

not sure how many fish you have there, but if you can get full-tank pics where the fish are visible (I know, it's easier said than done), I think that will help to see the actual size of the tank. Right now, it gives me the illusion that it is a small tank, when I know for a fact that 29's are not.
10-05-2007 07:53 PM
organic sideburns wow tank looks clean and i love the wood
10-05-2007 04:39 PM
turbowagon A quick update:

07-25-2007 02:04 PM
turbowagon Here are some updated pics. The Rotala sp. goias has been having a hard time filling in and I'm getting close to giving up on it. I may decide to go with an HM foreground like my 8 gallon.

06-08-2007 09:02 PM
turbowagon JP,

I'm far from an expert (just in the hobby for a year and a half), but here is my experience with 130W versus 65W over a 29 gallon:

130W / 10 hours a day:
very fast growth
good late-day pearling
assorted algae outbreaks (staghorn, GSA, GDA, a little BBA)
constantly having to prune GSA-infected leaves of cryptocorynes and anubias
more frequent trimming necessary for fast growers

65W / 8 hours a day:
moderate, but consistent growth
no algae at all
very little pearling (none on riccia), except after water changes
lower electricity bill
no problems growing a wide assortment of plants

If I had to do it over again, I would probably have just went with the 1X65W, I guess the only advantage to the 2X65W, is that I have the option if I want to experiment with high light in the future, but right now, I see no need. My life is much better without algae.
06-07-2007 08:41 PM
MrJP The growth you are getting is fantastic! And no signs of algea anywhere...nice!

Now if you could start over and reconsider your equipement, lighting in particular - would you go for 1x65w instead of 2x65w? I mean the price difference is more than double!!! Hard to justify when I see the jungle you got going here...

However the idea of toying arround with a mid day blast or alternating the bulbs every other day to avoid the backgroud plant leaning towards the center, both could be an interesting way to use this 2x65w fixture.

Any expert opinion on this issue would be appreciated!


06-07-2007 06:06 PM
turbowagon Well, I've neglected the tank for a while, but here's an update. I got rid of the riccia a few weeks ago, and last night, decided to replant the Rotala sp. 'Goias' as the foreground across the whole tank.

I still am growing out a few species, and the aquascape isn't balanced, but I some good ideas for once the foreground has grown in. Also, I realized that if you're using a CO2 mist setup, it's better to take pictures with the CO2 off. I'll try and remember that for next time.

Before pics. It's really grown into a jungle!

A shot I took of a "purple bamboo" stem that breached the surface:

Some pics I took of the Pogostemon stellatus "narrow-leaf" as it was floating waiting to be replanted:

A shot during the replanting process:

And finally, everything is replanted and arranged:

Thanks for looking!

03-22-2007 11:04 PM
RESGuy I am so sorry for the loss of Satine R.I.P Satine.

But your tank looks absolutely beautiful!
03-22-2007 09:10 PM
turbowagon Thanks Ernie!

Currently I'm using a Rhinox 2000 glass diffuser in the rear right corner of the tank, directly under an Eheim aquaball powerhead, which disperses the microbubbles throughout the tank. You can see the powerhead in the photos.

Also, I'm only running 65W for 8 hours with great results. The only downside to my lower lighting is that the Riccia doesn't pearl except after a water change.

- Joe
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