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12-13-2014 12:01 AM
AquaAurora
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Originally Posted by jerrytheplater View Post
I flipped through my book on succulents and here are some plants that have a look similar to Sempervivum and may do well without a cold dormancy.

Abromeitiella- Argentina, Bolivia
Aeonium- Canary Islands, Morocco
Agave- Mexico
Dudleya- Mexico
Dyckia- Brazil
Echeveria- Mexico
Graptopetalum- Mexico

The following are from South Africa and this is a good site for cultural info on SA plants. Take care, as the info is for SA climate and outdoor growth. Remember the seasons are opposite for us. http://www.plantzafrica.com/index.html

Adromischus
Aloe
Crassula
Haworthia

Some of these are huge genera and you will have to search for availability, suitability, and how it looks.

Hope this helps.
Thank you for the info! I'll look into those.
12-12-2014 11:45 PM
jerrytheplater
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Originally Posted by AquaAurora View Post
Thank you for the response! Can you tell me what type of like you used? kelvin? How long it was on and how close it was to the plant?



I found a little more on the plants and seems they really need their cold/dormant period... I may end up not getting them because of this. I want a year round indoor setup, but can't jack house temp low enough for proper winter dormancy without risking pipes bursting and fish getting very grumpy (tank heaters aren't high enough wattage to deal with air temp at 50-60F and keep tanks 76-80F), and moving them outside or into the garage with a light for 1/3-1/4 the year would defeat the purpose of the setup. I may instead try air plants (Tillandsia), or some other easy 'small' (stay 1' or under) house plants.
I flipped through my book on succulents and here are some plants that have a look similar to Sempervivum and may do well without a cold dormancy.

Abromeitiella- Argentina, Bolivia
Aeonium- Canary Islands, Morocco
Agave- Mexico
Dudleya- Mexico
Dyckia- Brazil
Echeveria- Mexico
Graptopetalum- Mexico

The following are from South Africa and this is a good site for cultural info on SA plants. Take care, as the info is for SA climate and outdoor growth. Remember the seasons are opposite for us. http://www.plantzafrica.com/index.html

Adromischus
Aloe
Crassula
Haworthia

Some of these are huge genera and you will have to search for availability, suitability, and how it looks.

Hope this helps.
12-12-2014 09:31 PM
Kehy
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Originally Posted by AquaAurora View Post
Thank you for the response! Can you tell me what type of like you used? kelvin? How long it was on and how close it was to the plant?
My bad, I totally forgot I only had the Chick in the terrarium for the time before I put a desklamp over it and blasted as much light in that thing as it could take. I had the Chick planted in crappy clay soil and had to take off for a month without watering it. It died, no surprise.

I used a floor lamp with a 6700k bulb, but that was over 20" away and definitely too little light. The desklight thing would have probably worked. Here's some pics of what I had.

12-12-2014 09:02 PM
AquaAurora
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I've tried keeping one in a terrarium, and it did alright with it ambient room everything. Watered it maybe 1-2 times a week. The only thing I had an issue with was the light. Maybe indirect but very bright sunlight would work, but the artificial lighting I had was only enough to keep it alive and make it get veeeery leggy.
Thank you for the response! Can you tell me what type of like you used? kelvin? How long it was on and how close it was to the plant?



I found a little more on the plants and seems they really need their cold/dormant period... I may end up not getting them because of this. I want a year round indoor setup, but can't jack house temp low enough for proper winter dormancy without risking pipes bursting and fish getting very grumpy (tank heaters aren't high enough wattage to deal with air temp at 50-60F and keep tanks 76-80F), and moving them outside or into the garage with a light for 1/3-1/4 the year would defeat the purpose of the setup. I may instead try air plants (Tillandsia), or some other easy 'small' (stay 1' or under) house plants.
12-12-2014 08:54 PM
Kehy
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Originally Posted by AquaAurora View Post
Sorry for dredging this thread up. I've been mauling over trying these plants but as an indoor only plant year round. I've not found a large amount of info online about indoor only care for Sempervivum species (hen and chick plants). The one brief mention I found says they won't be as colorful but still will grow. I've been trying to find photos of indoor only semp.s to see how much duller they'd be. House temp is 65-75F, humidity around 50, would be by a sw window on a inner wall with supplemented 6500k lights (t5,t8, or cfl.. haven't decided yet). I'm curious if anyone who's posted here -or see this and owns hen and chick plants- has tried keeping any indoors year round and how successful and colorful they've been?
I've tried keeping one in a terrarium, and it did alright with it ambient room everything. Watered it maybe 1-2 times a week. The only thing I had an issue with was the light. Maybe indirect but very bright sunlight would work, but the artificial lighting I had was only enough to keep it alive and make it get veeeery leggy.
12-12-2014 08:18 PM
AquaAurora Sorry for dredging this thread up. I've been mauling over trying these plants but as an indoor only plant year round. I've not found a large amount of info online about indoor only care for Sempervivum species (hen and chick plants). The one brief mention I found says they won't be as colorful but still will grow. I've been trying to find photos of indoor only semp.s to see how much duller they'd be. House temp is 65-75F, humidity around 50, would be by a sw window on a inner wall with supplemented 6500k lights (t5,t8, or cfl.. haven't decided yet). I'm curious if anyone who's posted here -or see this and owns hen and chick plants- has tried keeping any indoors year round and how successful and colorful they've been?
10-10-2014 03:09 AM
samee
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Originally Posted by jerrytheplater View Post
The cylinders/leaves are what I mean for you to break off. You should then be left with a stem.

I know what you mean about hormones, but I keep a container of it at all times. You never know when you'll need it. The fungicide can help.
Ok cool, thanks for that. I should wait till spring to do this, but they are already too long. Plus I will have T8 and a t5ho as lighting for the winter, so Im not worried about low lighting. Ill have to thing about it.
10-10-2014 01:54 AM
jerrytheplater The cylinders/leaves are what I mean for you to break off. You should then be left with a stem.

I know what you mean about hormones, but I keep a container of it at all times. You never know when you'll need it. The fungicide can help.
10-09-2014 08:56 PM
samee
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Originally Posted by jerrytheplater View Post
I was fooled. I thought the plant on the lower left corner was a Faucaria. Now by looking closer, I'm thinking its your Huernia Life Saver Plant.

Senecio question: They are best propagated in spring or early summer. Take a cutting at least 2" long. Remove enough leaves from bottom to form a stem. Dip in Rooting Hormone powder with a fungicide if possible. Cuttings should be allowed to dry for a few days to form a callous. Plant in a pot and don't water for at least a month or until you see new growth. Or you can lay the cutting on the surface of the potting soil until you see roots forming and then plant. Wait a few days to water.
Thanks Jerry, when you say remove as many leaves, what do you mean? The senecio does not have any leaves. Its just...cylinders. I just wanted to know if you could chop them off and actually have them root (as in, lets say chopping off an aloe leaf will not make it root). Besides that I got the rest covered, I have propagated before So far Ive never had the need for root hormones, Im assuming that stuff would be for tougher to root/propagate plants. Sure it speeds things up but I just dont propagate enough to actually go out, research and buy a hormone.
10-09-2014 04:53 AM
jerrytheplater
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Originally Posted by samee View Post
I dont have a tiger jaw
I was fooled. I thought the plant on the lower left corner was a Faucaria. Now by looking closer, I'm thinking its your Huernia Life Saver Plant.

Senecio question: They are best propagated in spring or early summer. Take a cutting at least 2" long. Remove enough leaves from bottom to form a stem. Dip in Rooting Hormone powder with a fungicide if possible. Cuttings should be allowed to dry for a few days to form a callous. Plant in a pot and don't water for at least a month or until you see new growth. Or you can lay the cutting on the surface of the potting soil until you see roots forming and then plant. Wait a few days to water.
10-09-2014 04:34 AM
jerrytheplater Here's the dish garden as it was about 10 minutes ago. Brought it indoors and used a flash to take the photo. Same plant list as above and same orientation. Six months growth.

10-09-2014 04:27 AM
samee That looks like an old pic, but I love your semps. Cant wait for them to fill it in. I want to do something like that as well.

Yes the Echinopsis is leaning a bit. They will be going under high light for the winter soon, I will make sure to rotate them next summer. Although I might not be in an apartment by then. I dont have a tiger jaw, is it the aloe right beside Echinopsis? That guy is straight, I recently repotted him. The life saver plant looks like its towards the light, but it was covering the whole pot. They had red bugs on them, by the time I found out there was alot of damage. A good portion of the plant turned to mush and smell bad. I decided to throw away half of it because it was in bad shape and only way to really get rid of the bugs. I sprayed herb oil and its been doing fine since. Perhaps it should be rotated as well.

Question, the Senecio S. Kilimanjaro has grown so tall that its leaning over and eventually, snap or just fall over. So I wanted to cut the plant. I wanted to ask if you can actually propagate like that. When I got the plant some of them were already chopped off, so it seemed. So Im assuming you can do that, just wanted to make sure. Not sure if you know anything about it. I will google and ask on cacti and succulent forum if I dont.
10-09-2014 04:17 AM
jerrytheplater Samee

The flowering Echinopsis seems to be leaning a little. The growth point seems to be leaning toward the sun. The Faucaria Tiger Jaws seem to be leaning. Could be an optical illusion, but it is something to watch for.

On another note, I just uploaded a photo taken April 22, 2014 of my newly planted Sempervivum and Sedum dish garden. I don't know if I've taken an update, but the growth has been amazing. The dish is plastic and 14" in diameter.

Plant list: Newly planted with Sempervivum's I bought at the 2014 CT Cactus and Succulent Show. Clockwise from above the rock: 2 Sempervivum ciliosum Ali Botusch, 2 S. Apple Blossom, 2 Sedum cuttings, 9 S. arachnoidium from Waterford Gardens 2013", 1 Sedum cutting, Creeping Thyme?, 4 S. arachnoidium "cebenese", 3 long Sedum cuttings, lastly 7 S. villiosum alongside the left side of the rock.

10-09-2014 03:53 AM
samee Ive not been rotating them. Which ones are leaning? There are some that seem to be leaning, but very little.
10-08-2014 04:00 AM
jerrytheplater Samee

Do you rotate your pots so the plant gets even exposure from the sun. Don't want to see your plants lean. It looks like a few in your Sept 27 photo are leaning.

I do have a photo of my dish garden. I'll get it up soon. Plants did nicely, some stayed dwarf.
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