|04-03-2013 10:45 PM|
|houseofcards||I wouldn't worry about the whole natural balanced thing. I don't really see the UV as any different than injecting c02 and in some aspects simply using a filter. These are closed systems and they need assistance in many ways. To create balance sometimes means to compromise, by putting additional stems/plants in you don't want and using less light which might limit certain plants, etc. The benefits for the fish alone is worth it.|
|04-03-2013 06:36 PM|
it's nice to hear opinions that are similar in regards to my penchant for the natural and simple!
but i ordered a uv light anyway...
Thanks for the suggestion for red ludwigia - I'll def have to pick some up (tho I don't remember seeing that in any of the LFS I frequent, nor do I see any for sale in the swap shop here. I'll keep an eye out.) I've also zeroed in on glossostigma, but I change my tank around every month or two, so I gotta make sure I stick to plants that don't mind being moved... (i.e. I don't see my crypt lasting... lol)
|04-02-2013 06:04 PM|
One Negative about UV is price....
It's about $50-$100 for the MOST basic model. Elaborate ones will run into the $100's. Not sure about the "UV Sterilizers" they offer at the LFS & if they are effective or a waste of money.
I think I've seen the LITTLE green machine if that's what it's called @ PS.
I too like to keep it NATURAL & simple whenever possible.
Definitely think you need more plants. The ones you are currently growing in your tank are SLOW growing varieties.
|04-02-2013 05:03 PM|
i've never looked into a UV light; always subscribed to a natural balance way of thinking - I always kinda assumed the UV would kill good bacteria along with the bad and throw it all outta whack (even though I know the vast majority of cultures are in the filter media... i guess i never though too much about it).
this weekend i'm gonna cut up my cannister's output line to include this co2 reactor - I could easily toss a UV in there while I was at it.
so there's no downside to a UV?
|04-02-2013 01:15 PM|
If your having GW issues get a UV. There's just so much upside to it. I have never had any issues with plants and I ran one 24/7 on two different tanks for years. If your dosing micros w/iron on a regular basis there won't be an issue.
Your water will be so clear you'll have to look twice to see if THERE is water, your fish will acclimate better and have less disease when their stressed and open to infection and you'll have more wiggle room with parameters and if you accidentally stir up the bottom. Many professional installers and aquascapers use them to avoid potential problems.
|04-02-2013 12:27 PM|
|Zlookup||Yes, more plants makes a big difference for sure ... especially on the enjoyment factor . Anything that is considered a fast grower should do well for you. A few swords wouldn't hurt either though I hear they start to be more of a problem in sucking up too much nutrients as they get larger.|
|04-01-2013 11:04 PM|
|puopg||+1 on more plants. UV also will solve all green water issues.|
|04-01-2013 07:19 PM|
|04-01-2013 04:47 PM|
that's the best news I've heard all day! that's all the excuse I need; i'll have to stop by the lfs on the way home and pick some up!
|04-01-2013 02:57 PM|
Re: green water?
You need more plants
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|04-01-2013 02:43 PM|
forgive me, but adding "stems" as in long-stemmed plants? I understand that floating plants would help because they take nutrients from the water column; stems do the same?
|04-01-2013 03:45 AM|
|04-01-2013 03:38 AM|
|Zlookup||Would notice slight hint of green in my water during changes as well but after playing around with my photoperiod, found that 4 hrs on, 8 off, 4 on works for me. Adding floaters and stems helped as well. Have been able to even lower lights more now with no issues. Will continue to gradually lower further slowly and see what I can get away with.|
|04-01-2013 02:26 AM|
The tank is a 29g. It's not as noticeable just looking at the tank anymore, but the imbalance is apparent when you siphon into a white bucket.
With twice weekly water changes, regular pruning and full-dosing Flourish Excel (I was just 1/2 dosing it), it seems I've found the formula to successfully keep it at bay until I can get my co2 running and this tank firing on all cylinders. Here's a screenshot from just tonight.
|04-01-2013 01:09 AM|
I have a flower vase that I keep on my windowsill for misc plants & other trimmings. The water is totally green now. Is it safe to add some of that to my fish fry tank with a band of half dozen shrimp?
I'm assuming the green color is some sort of microbes that fish/shrimp/snails will feed on??
OP I have no idea what to suggest. My vase is about half/gallon & gets only sunlight. The other vases by the same window sill are NOT green.
WGoat.... How many gallons is your GREEN tank?
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