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09-23-2006 08:22 AM
Sietch31 OK, Thank you all for your ideas !

It seems that my crazy idea gives you all a lot to think of !!!
And I had lot of fun reading through, specially when you came discussiong th idea of the skylight above the tank !!!
And knowing that our bedroom is on the second floor just above that tank, I would have to build a glass floor in the bedroom as well, but it will be nice at night to have a look on the stars at bedtime !

In the mean time, have completed my light setup, and planted my tank !

Photos will come soon. And we can discuss if my present setup could accommodate that no-light idea....

But I will continue my researches.
Anymore ideas are welcome, and may be one day I will remove these lights to achive my "water cube in the middle of the room" idea !!!
09-22-2006 06:03 PM
windsurfer We have a walstad style low-tech 20tall mounted in a window on the west side of the house which has no lights - just the window. For this tank we have parchment paper and bubble wrap behind it to attenuate the light. otherwise it gets too much light and grows algae.

we also have a 90 gal in the dining room on the north side of the house directly in front of the window. it has CO2 injection and the only lighting is 2x54w T5HO 4hr/day + lots of indirect sun.

additionally, a 10 gal half-full shrimp breeding tank in front of a sliding glass door with a patio roof outside. no direct sunlight light and no artificial light, still grows great.

if you plan things out right, it is possible to have a tank with little or no artificial light.

check out this monster thread on reef central for info about sola-tube lighting.

Reef Central Online Community - SolaTubes for reef tanks

09-14-2006 04:27 PM
sarahbobarah I second, (third?) the suggestion to go no light. My anubius nana has sprouted new leaves in months of no light except a funky blacklight.
09-04-2006 03:58 AM
ouranos After looking at your setup I think you can definitely go unlit if you kept to Anubias, java fern and java moss.

Years ago I left a 20 long completely neglected except for monthly-ish topoffs, and no lighting fixture. It only got ambient light in a fairly well-sunlit room (but no direct light) and the Anubias' grew to an incredible size, a couple grew well out of the water. I had java fern and java moss in there as well, and they also grew fairly well. When I broke it down after sitting for a year, every square inch of substrate had tremendous root masses running through.

Go for it - I think that tank would be incredible completely open ontop. Good Luck!!
09-02-2006 10:03 AM
gus I've seen Java fern grow under ceiling floros in an office. If that's your idea of a nice planted tank, go for it.
08-30-2006 09:12 PM
Mori I think this has left the realm of low tech. Now I have crazy ideas for my next remodel.
08-30-2006 03:26 AM
ox777 From what I've seen and heard from others, most of those 'solar tubes' don't focus light on a point or direction. They are basically more efficient sky lights, but I still think you're going to have a hell of time aiming it to hit the tank for more than an hour or so.

If you really want to control natural light, look into fiber optics. you can solar colectors, which kind of look like small satellite dishes, and pipe natural light anywhere in your house.
08-28-2006 03:46 AM
lumpyfunk I believe you can get a "solar tube" that reflects the light around bends ect. I was also thinking about spot lighting the tank, which could be done from above, still have the DIY electrical and the unknown will it get enough light into the tank to matter?
08-28-2006 02:46 AM
Originally Posted by quilting chick View Post
Oooooooh, I have an idea -- how about installing a skylight directly above the tank. That would be so neat, and no electrical work involved.

Skylights are not good at bringing light in all over the world. Only if your within 11 degrees (think that's right) of the equator are they more effective than a vertical window.
08-20-2006 04:47 PM
quilting chick Oooooooh, I have an idea -- how about installing a skylight directly above the tank. That would be so neat, and no electrical work involved.

08-20-2006 12:55 PM
medicineman Doable (as in no artificial light but using natural sunlight) and has been done before over and over again. The key is picking the right spot with enough light. Almost all tanks use sunlight as the main source, with some metal halide for evening/night view only (most times by setting shading net over to get just enough sunlight). The scale done this way in my country can get larger than 2000 gallon with constant fresh water supply. Some crazy people have monster tanks (planted tanks!) inside their houses (yes, private property!), usually within the wall with no roof or transparent roof. It seems bringin a kind of public aquarium display into private houses has become a trend to the rich scapist.
08-12-2006 04:45 PM
guaiac_boy Yeah, but home electrical work is half of the fun......... ZZZZZZZZZap!!!

Actually, a single wire hanging down over the tank can make for an interesting focal point. At the same time, it might look better in a corner, or up against a wall. You'll just have to try it to see.
08-12-2006 03:55 PM
Originally Posted by quilting chick
I think single bulb pendant lights (think metal halide) would keep the open and airy feeling you're looking for. You could drop down two or three, depending on what wpg you're trying to achieve.

Thanks for the idea,

Ceiling is pretty high in that room (more than 4 meters....) so I don't know about the look of such long wires or chain to hang fixtures from there...
Any example of such arrangement ???

Plus I would have to drive electric power up there....
08-12-2006 03:53 PM
Originally Posted by handsomeboy
you should try, and then tell us how it goes. taking a risk is the first step to doing something awesome.
I am definitely thinking about it...

I am now testing a possible light arrangement but if I do not feel happy with it, I will give a try to the "unlighted" tank test
08-11-2006 08:32 PM
handsomeboy you should try, and then tell us how it goes. taking a risk is the first step to doing something awesome.
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