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03-22-2013 05:22 AM
Kinection
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Originally Posted by wicca27 View Post
dark color substrate and decore will bring out darker colored shrimp. im bettin the yellow they are becomeing light in color to try and blend in with the light color since they are hanging out on it.
Yup, the yellow sponge is probably the reason why. After I put them in the guppy tank for 4 hoursish, some of them are VERY red. That's 8 out of 80ish though. And it's good to know I'm not going down Soothing!
03-22-2013 04:48 AM
wicca27 dark color substrate and decore will bring out darker colored shrimp. im bettin the yellow they are becomeing light in color to try and blend in with the light color since they are hanging out on it.
03-22-2013 04:32 AM
Soothing Shrimp When starting out selective breeding, you may get 10 out of 100 that show some promising sign. Sounds like you are doing okay. Don't go lower than 10 IMHO.
03-22-2013 01:55 AM
Kinection
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Originally Posted by thelub View Post
Don't ruin shrimp lives! Send them to me!!!!!!! lol

I don't care what they look like. I just want shrimp and do not want to pay 6 bucks a piece for them. Plus I feel better about paying a forum member for shrimp than my lousy LFS who sold me lousy grade CRS for a premium.
I would totally give them to you, but I'm not very good at packing, well... I've never really sold anything.
UPDATE: I just culled out like 80 more males... most of them have red spine/ but don't have much of a solid body, just areas with red. Most of them are the ones that hang on the back wall. I've noticed they haven't looked so good ever since I put in a giant yellow filter sponge, which most of the culls stay on, does that affect their color? It seems like I barely have any shrimp left lols.
03-21-2013 07:18 AM
thelub Don't ruin shrimp lives! Send them to me!!!!!!! lol

I don't care what they look like. I just want shrimp and do not want to pay 6 bucks a piece for them. Plus I feel better about paying a forum member for shrimp than my lousy LFS who sold me lousy grade CRS for a premium.
03-21-2013 05:55 AM
Kinection
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Originally Posted by randyl View Post
I just mark them as Fire Red Culls with a picture. Not sure if you noticed, the above two pics were my culls in the internal breeder box. Look at the shrimp just below the rili, that shrimp was pretty red except maybe a small dot on the back that's a bit translucent. Don't be shy when culling, either cull hard or you'll cull long.
That makes me feel better about ruining 20 shrimp lives. lols
03-21-2013 04:36 AM
randyl I just mark them as Fire Red Culls with a picture. Not sure if you noticed, the above two pics were my culls in the internal breeder box. Look at the shrimp just below the rili, that shrimp was pretty red except maybe a small dot on the back that's a bit translucent. Don't be shy when culling, either cull hard or you'll cull long.
03-21-2013 03:16 AM
Kinection
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Originally Posted by randyl View Post
Me too, that's also why I didn't just get another breeding group and restart. I want to do it myself. I started with 1m+10f, I've sold/given away hundreds and I still have hundreds ;-)

I started to have pretty nice male in F3, I'm sure I'll get there in F5. Cull the male sooner is the trick I think. You can't afford to have a bad male at large for too long ;-)

I pretty much gave away those rilis, like 15 for $10, because I don't have another tank for them.

Oh, and another thing I do is, I always have an in-tank breeder box. I grab the net when they are eating, and net the culls in the breeder box. Sell them when there are like 40-50 in there.
I just netted out 20ish males, left 2 of the best in there. The rest are living in the 75G now!
I would sell them, but labeling them "RCS" would be kinda shady.
03-21-2013 02:33 AM
randyl
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Originally Posted by Kinection View Post
Nice Rilis you got there! My Red rili line has gotten a LOT of red from the fire reds, I just want my male fire reds to look as dark as the females, that's my goal.
Me too, that's also why I didn't just get another breeding group and restart. I want to do it myself. I started with 1m+10f, I've sold/given away hundreds and I still have hundreds ;-)

I started to have pretty nice male in F3, I'm sure I'll get there in F5. Cull the male sooner is the trick I think. You can't afford to have a bad male at large for too long ;-)

I pretty much gave away those rilis, like 15 for $10, because I don't have another tank for them.

Oh, and another thing I do is, I always have an in-tank breeder box. I grab the net when they are eating, and net the culls in the breeder box. Sell them when there are like 40-50 in there.
03-21-2013 01:50 AM
Kinection
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Originally Posted by randyl View Post
I've been culling my fire reds for 3 generations now. I started with 10 very nice painted fire reds and one so-so male. The F1 I culled about 50% of the male, F2 was a bit less, now I think I will still cull 30% in F3.... all because of 1 bad male.

How big you ask? I cull any male that is close to sexual maturity (i.e. very small), for female, I cull at first berry. Reason being, if I miss a bad female, I might have to cull 50% of that clutch, if I miss a male, I might have to cull 100 shrimps in the next month or so.

As mixing them with rilies, I think that's a bad idea if you want to have higher grade PFRs. A few of my culls look just like rilies. Such as this one,




BTW, if I know how to catch all the shrimps in that tank, I'd just restart with all nice ones.
Nice Rilis you got there! My Red rili line has gotten a LOT of red from the fire reds, I just want my male fire reds to look as dark as the females, that's my goal.
03-21-2013 01:45 AM
randyl I've been culling my fire reds for 3 generations now. I started with 10 very nice painted fire reds and one so-so male. The F1 I culled about 50% of the male, F2 was a bit less, now I think I will still cull 30% in F3.... all because of 1 bad male.

How big you ask? I cull any male that is close to sexual maturity (i.e. very small), for female, I cull at first berry. Reason being, if I miss a bad female, I might have to cull 50% of that clutch, if I miss a male, I might have to cull 100 shrimps in the next month or so.

As mixing them with rilies, I think that's a bad idea if you want to have higher grade PFRs. A few of my culls look just like rilies. Such as this one,




BTW, if I know how to catch all the shrimps in that tank, I'd just restart with all nice ones.
03-21-2013 01:20 AM
Kinection
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Originally Posted by wicca27 View Post
you might get a tank for culls cause some times they darken as they get older
Yup, that's what my 75G is for, they usually don't darken up, just get fatter.
03-21-2013 01:18 AM
wicca27 you might get a tank for culls cause some times they darken as they get older
03-21-2013 01:13 AM
Kinection
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Originally Posted by MABJ View Post
There's no beginning or end.

If I see a shrimp that doesn't genetically fit my build, I remove it and give it away. Simple as that. I have a few CRS that I'm about to cull.
Oh ok, I might do that. Any other breeders out there?
03-21-2013 01:10 AM
MABJ
When do you start culling?

There's no beginning or end.

If I see a shrimp that doesn't genetically fit my build, I remove it and give it away. Simple as that. I have a few CRS that I'm about to cull.
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