|03-21-2014 05:53 PM|
That's the funny part: I can find the 8W versions all over the web for $45-50, but the Daylight version of the 6W seems to bottom out around $65 on reputable sites and eBay (MarineAndReef is the only one I've found below $50 on sale and they're out of stock).
I'll keep shopping around and see what else I can find. Worst case I can always get another Finnex (not a bad option as long as it isn't too dim: it really is a nice color with the mix of 7k whites and the red).
|03-21-2014 04:42 PM|
1. That makes more sense! Turns out there are a couple different multi-diode options. Ken's Fish probably has a good price on them.
2. 8w is definitely too powerful. 6w would work because you can easily adjust the height.
Actually, the 8w would work if you raised it all the way up and had floaters.
My advise for rimless tank lighting: think about what the fixture will look like when placed on the tank. Is it gaudy? Does it distract you from the tank itself? If so, get something else.
You should be able to get a nice Wavepoint for $40-$50 tops. Check Amazon first.
Also search for knock-off Up Aqua fixtures on eBay. Sometimes you can find great ones in various intensities and wattages for cheap.
|03-21-2014 04:38 PM|
1. I think I might have figured out the source of the misunderstanding: I was asking about the multiple-diode model you mentioned below, not the single-diode on a suction cup you talked about here:
I am asking for advice because my experience with LEDs is limited and I've never had a cube, so I don't have any idea how much wattage I'd need to get the right amount of light in a 25cm tank. The 3W Wavepoint seems to work well on your 20cm tanks, but how much more power would be needed for similar results on the 25cm tank that's nearly 2" bigger on every side?
|03-21-2014 03:37 PM|
1. Just look though the thread. You'll see photos of the fixture that will tell you what I'm talking about. It is, indeed, otherwise mentioned. You could even use the search function if you don't want to click a few links.
2. If you read through the thread, you'll realize the light I mentioned -- again, you'll have to go find it know what I'm talking about -- may or may not be suitable. If you search the forum, you'll actually find other members who use the light I mentioned on 25cm cubes. I don't use the light mentioned on a 25cm cube and would not.
There are several versions of the Wavepoint fixture - not just 3-watt.
Every fixture you mentioned could work for your tank. It's up to you - what you want to spend, the aesthetic you desire, et al.
|03-21-2014 03:28 PM|
It's true that there is a fantastic amount of information here (and we're very grateful for the effort you've put into it!). I'm not trying to be lazy; I've read through this thread several times and have two main questions that I haven't been able to find the answers to:
1) In the quoted thread above, you recommended a Deep Blue light that isn't otherwise mentioned and I was trying to clarify which model you were referring to. The one I linked is in the price range you mentioned, but only seems seems to be a single 3W white LED with a tiny blue LED on either side. Were you thinking of a different model?
2) There has been some "x vs y" in your comments over time, but I was hoping to get more of a read on the sum-total of your thoughts (especially for the larger 25cm cube, since most of this has focused on the 20cm ones). The AquaTop Nano-P is obviously too strong for low tech, so what would you get if you didn't have a spare light sitting around? All of these are in the $30-40 price range:
-The untested Solarflare?
-The unspeced potential successor to the Up Aqua that has been discontinued?
-The Finnex Finnex FugeRAY-R, which seems to be a decent product despite the poor electronics placement? (mine is well-sealed, BTW)
-Or would the Wavepoint still be your go-to for this sort of tank?
I'm leaning towards the Wavepoint or getting another of the Finnex. The Finnex really is a nice color with the red LEDs, but I'm not sure if its 5W would be too strong for a 25cm tank (and I'm terrible at eye-balling this sort of thing, so I wouldn't be able to look at it and tell without depriving one tank of light for an extended period to test my current Finnex on the cube). Conversely, I'm concerned the 3W of the Wavepoint would be too weak for the larger cube. I have very little experience with this size tank, so I'm not sure how to choose between these two without the luxury of being able to try both.
|03-21-2014 03:21 PM|
I've used a little ZooMed and am using an Eheim on one of the larger cubes at the moment.
Am just a fan of Aquaclear and always keep going back to them.
|03-21-2014 03:19 PM|
|starfire12||I really like all your tanks, and those shrimp are to die for. Just wish I had the room and money to get some of those cubes. I you ever thought of using the mini canister filters for the tanks.|
|03-21-2014 12:15 PM|
|somewhatshocked||The questions you're asking can be answered by actually reading through the thread. Don't mean to sound flippant but there's quite a bit of information, actually. Along with photos.|
|03-21-2014 04:36 AM|
I'm trying to find an affordable light in the "high enough that most plants do well and the tank doesn't look dim, but low enough that I can get by without CO2" lighting range, which seems to be what you've been going for with these cubes.
Or do you think this Up Aqua one would be a better fit? It isn't in stock and Up Aqua's product page is light on specs (yuk yuk yuk ), but MarineDepot lists the model you mentioned earlier as discontinued and this seems to be its successor (with the "added feature" of some goofy clip-on colored endcaps).
|01-05-2014 09:33 PM|
Thanks somewhatshocked for the help.
Got tank, filter, light, and etc this morning. Now I'm looking at plants to put into it. Moving my snails from my little containers into this tank. Only snails. No shrimp.
|01-02-2014 01:22 PM|
Nah, the AC20 isn't too strong. As I've mentioned, there are quite a few ways to slow things down. Feel free to check out just about any journal I've got going.
Azoo Palm is fine - I use a couple - but they're $10-$12 for extremely brittle plastic with very little room for media. AC20 usually starts at about $18-$20. Way more bang for your buck.
|01-02-2014 02:28 AM|
I use the Azoo Palm on all my 2G and 3G tanks. I have the "rudder" 90° to the flow to slow the filter down.
The AC20 that came with my Fluval Edge is super strong, even with intake pre-filter sponge and additional internal sponge. The filter blew a divot in the substrate even tuned down.
I think an AC20 might be too strong for a 2G cube but my experiences are limited.
|01-01-2014 10:27 PM|
If it were me, I'd get an AC20, turn the flow all the way down, stuff it full and use a pre-filter sponge to further slow things down.
Best bang for your buck and it'll last you longer than the tank.
|01-01-2014 10:26 PM|
I would like your opinion.
I'm going to buy one of the 2g tanks and I was wondering what kind of filter I should get. I see that Aquatop has some filters that are on clearance, but can't find anyone on here who uses them. I see mentions of Azoo Palm, Deeo Blue nano, and some others for tanks this small.
I was thinking of getting an AC20 or AC30 with an AC20 impeller or should I go for a nano filter? I wouldn't want to get an AC if it's too strong of flow.
|11-16-2013 12:19 AM|
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