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06-03-2013 07:20 PM
pandamonium Of course! I haven't made an update in a while since I have been in school but now I am back so hopefully that can start up again!
06-03-2013 02:36 PM
newbieplanter Saweeeeeeeet looken tank I need to do an all shrimp tank myself, I have them mixed with guppies and Cory cats,and algae eaters an snails too so the babies really have no chance at all. Thanks for the inspiration.
04-05-2013 08:41 PM
pandamonium Been a while since I have updated the journal since being at school. In the meantime, I have added 2 breeder boxes onto the tank. One has red rili/cherry of different grades and the other has some OEBT.

Unfortunately, one of the OEBT jumped out but I have 4 or 5 left. 1 of them is blonde, the other are blue.

With regards to the tank, the orange neos have been breeding like crazy. The tank is swarming with little shrimplets. I haven't found a berried mother yet though so hopefully it hasn't all stopped. My normal tigers have met unfortunate ends Only 2 are left now, both healthy but I think both might be female as well. We will see what happens with them. I am on the lookout for more tigers at the moment, but not wanting them to breed with my OEBT.

The most recent addition to the tank are amanos which are doing a spectacular job keep the tank clean. I moved over the moss tree and have resorted to purely sponge filters, no more canister. Still deciding if I am gonna use that or sell it with the inline heater that I built.

Just 1 picture of my shrimps eating More hopefully soon

In the meanwhile, the crystals, I have moved to another 2 gallon which I will be starting a tank journal for soon Be on the lookout!
03-19-2013 10:44 PM
Originally Posted by water-kitties View Post
Your tank is beautiful! You don't worry about the cloud minnows snacking on your babies?
They didn't touch babies for the longest time and they actually spawned in my tank without me even knowing. But I removed them just in case because they were starting to nip the mama shrimps. And thanks for the compliment! The tank looks a bit different now without the white clouds!

Originally Posted by Green_Flash View Post
Congrats! the tank looks great.
03-19-2013 10:21 PM
Green_Flash Congrats! the tank looks great.
03-19-2013 09:31 PM
water-kitties Your tank is beautiful! You don't worry about the cloud minnows snacking on your babies?
02-26-2013 07:34 AM
Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
How quickly did your Tigers get berried? Mine have been in my tank for 6 weeks and have molted more times than I can count, but none of them are berried yet. What is your PH?
My tigers were berried within 1.5 to 2 weeks of getting them. The first one gave birth last week and there are 2 or 3 more following up soon. Unfortunately, I'll be at school so I won't witness it but it's okay as long as they survive The last I checked, my pH was buffered to 6.8 by the substrate. It comes out of the tap at 7.2 with a KH of almost 0-1. I imagine the pH probably dropped a little to 6.6 maybe.
02-26-2013 07:19 AM
The Dude
Pandamonium's 12g Long - "Pride Rock" *FIRST SHRIMPLETS*

How quickly did your Tigers get berried? Mine have been in my tank for 6 weeks and have molted more times than I can count, but none of them are berried yet. What is your PH?
02-26-2013 06:24 AM
pandamonium First update in a while! Just got back from school and found out my shrimps gave birth but my fish were snacking hard! I gave away the fish and voila tons more babies!

More berried tigers!

More CRS (SS to B grade) that I got traded. 22 CRS for 40 white clouds!

Hello there little shrimplets!

Got some free rilis from my roommate Bananariot. Berried in 2 days!

Fat momma shrimp
02-15-2013 04:08 PM
Sluuuder Awesome tank and shrimp! Can't wait to get some tigers!
01-13-2013 05:00 AM
pandamonium Looked at my tank today and saw some shrimp fights but then took a closer look and....

First time I have had a berried shrimp. I don't know who the father is. It could be some CRS, which I did remove or it could be other tigers. I guess I will have to wait and find out!
01-11-2013 06:47 AM
pandamonium So since I set up everything, the tank has finally stabilized. I ended up putting in some more black eyed blue tigers that I got in an auction. Then I went to the fish store and they were selling tigers for $1.50 each. I looked through and I saw some orange eyes on these tigers so I fished out those and some others. If these are blonde OEBTs, will they eventually breed OEBT?

Also, I decided to split up the CRS and tigers. Since I only have 5 CRS, I grabbed a breeder box and put them all in there with some java moss and frogbit. It's still linked to the tank so the water conditions are the same.

Here are some more pics!

CRS meets orange neo...

Blue tigers hanging out in a tree

New (hopefully blonde OEBT) tigers

CRS roaming (S+ tiger tooth I think)

CRS in breeder box

Neos and tigers eating. They ate a LOT more today than ever...

Blonde OEBT? Would be cool if it was
01-05-2013 08:36 PM
pandamonium The nitrates dropped off after a few days of putting pennywort, frogbit and water lettuce into the tank. Those things suck it up fast. It's still at around 20 but compared to 160 I think it's acceptable for now.

Otherwise, added some more shrimps, CRS ( I think they are S grade? Any help would be great). I do fully understand that they can interbreed with the tigers but if I do want to sell any offspring, I will make that very clear to the buyer. But my plan is that these shrimp are for my viewing pleasure and the orange neos can breed as much as they want


This guy looks funny. Not sure if he looks S grade like his other friends.

others with a tiger eating

hanging out under a tree
01-02-2013 02:33 AM
pandamonium So finally switched filters on my tanks. Threw my Eheim ECCO pro 2232 on the 12 gallon long with a spraybar I salvaged from the SunSun 304B that I tacked onto my 40 gallon Amazon tank. Both tanks are doing well and I did a water change after filter transfer on both tanks.

Filled the Amazon tank filter with lava rock since it has a good surface area and for 4 dollars, I got maybe 10-15 pounds at HD. There may be other more porous options like pot scrubbers but I don't know where to find them for cheap haha Lava rock will definitely be fine.

I did water tests on my shrimp tank today and my nitrates apparently are between 80 and 160 ppm. I will be doing a water change very soon (aka when I finish my dinner). Ammonia and nitrite are solidly at 0 ppm. Any thoughts to why nitrate is so high? It's strange. I don't think there is that much decomposition. I dumped out the dirty water from the canister when I transferred it but did not wash the biological media so that I wouldn't kill any bacteria.


12-28-2012 10:24 PM
Originally Posted by somewhatshocked View Post
I don't see anywhere that your tank cycled. That's a process that takes quite a while, even with a previously used filter.

It's not just for processing ammonia but for developing a nice environment for shrimp.

Are you monitoring parameters?
Originally Posted by jarvitron View Post
"Anyone know why it has orange eyes but isn't blue"

Good luck with your tank.

"Orange eye blue tiger" shrimp are just like Rili shrimp, a selectively intensified coloration that exists in wild populations. Orange eyes, black eyes, blue bodies, clear bodies, blue stripes, black stripes, brown stripes, red stripes, all exist (to greater or lesser intensity) in wild populations. When somebody is selling "OEBT" they're selling a line that (hopefully) has been selectively bred to create _mostly_ Orange Eye blue body tiger shrimp, but even the best lines will throw some wilder variance.

As far as everything else goes, I have the same concerns as above - There's no dates on the pictures but you seem to have thrown the tank together from parts in under a week, I hope you have put thought into the parameters of your water and the maturity of the tank, because in that small of a tank, and with shrimp, it all counts.
Yeah I have been monitoring parameters every day since I put it together. I had a bad case of new tank syndrome when I started a tank many years ago before I understood everything going on. Since then I have been very cautious about it. I haven't updated the parameters I list but as of today, they are 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, and nitrates on the rise. I used half of my canister filter media from my year and a half old 40 gallon tank and the Tetra Safe Start starter cultures to seed/develop the beneficial bacteria. I also have been doing water changes like crazy. Funny story here is that I tested the tap and it had 0.25 ppm ammonia after I used Prime so I thought I was putting ammonia straight into the tank and thus continued to do many water changes in a row. But it turns out the test cannot distinguish ammonia sequestered by Prime and free harmful ammonia (what I learned from another forum).

Either way it goes I have been treading carefully as I have read that shrimp do not do well (die) in ammonia or nitrite waters so I made sure that the environment was suitable before introducing them. The white clouds I introduced first as a test and so far (knock on wood) none of them have died or shown signs of stress. They are eating well and swimming about very vigorously. It could be because it's in their nature as well I guess, but the shrimps are doing well also. Eating and nibbling here and there. I took a sponge filter I had in another tank which was pretty much covered in biofilm and put it in this one for filtration and food too.
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