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Today 06:53 AM
dzega ive lost one otto and few cherry shrimps with this treatment. 3ml/gal h2o2 suggested here is way too much for shrimp tank. safe dose is considered being 1ml/gal
Today 12:31 AM
Pi Guy Has anyone lost any cories to this treatment? If so, what dose did you use?
04-24-2015 03:38 AM
Xirxes Results day 3:

Tank looks super crisp, all algae has lightened, but not been removed.

Lost three small schooling fish, cannot say when, but the rest of the tank is recycling 2 rummy nose tetras and one Cardinal tetra.

I haven't had any fish die in over a year, so I know for sure it was this treatment. Perhaps a slightly lower dose next go round.

Will keep updating over next week.
04-22-2015 11:26 AM
andyl9063
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Originally Posted by Xirxes View Post
I just performed this treatment. And I have strange results.

I have 240 gallons. I drained 80 gallons or so, and accounted for 60-70 gallons worth of substrate, plants and wood.

Turned off filter, closed filter lines.
I put in large aeration and added 300ml (30ml/10 gal for 100 remaining gallons) peroxide.

I let this broil for 15 minutes, then added 3/4 just drained tank water, 1/4 new DI water back in to fill.

Added 100ml flourish Excel and kept aerators going.

All fish seem fine other than the stress of the broiling bubbles... HOWEVER....

My water column is turning pinky RED! I have seen something similar before and I have two theories:

1) I nuked the bacteria in the display tank, and they are turning red as they die

2) I oxidized all of my chelated iron and the water is showing the metallic color of iron (more likely)

If anyone has experienced RED WATER before, please give me some references thanks.

Here are some pics, I will update with progress.
I did this with my 220g yesterday. That's normal, but its a cloud grey color of the water. You'll see a lot of dissolved bubbles.
04-22-2015 03:47 AM
Xirxes
The "One-Two Punch" Whole Tank Algae Treatment

I just performed this treatment. And I have strange results.

I have 240 gallons. I drained 80 gallons or so, and accounted for 60-70 gallons worth of substrate, plants and wood.

Turned off filter, closed filter lines.
I put in large aeration and added 300ml (30ml/10 gal for 100 remaining gallons) peroxide.

I let this broil for 15 minutes, then added 3/4 just drained tank water, 1/4 new DI water back in to fill.

Added 100ml flourish Excel and kept aerators going.

All fish seem fine other than the stress of the broiling bubbles... HOWEVER....

My water column is turning pinky RED! I have seen something similar before and I have two theories:

1) I nuked the bacteria in the display tank, and they are turning red as they die

2) I oxidized all of my chelated iron and the water is showing the metallic color of iron (more likely)

If anyone has experienced RED WATER before, please give me some references thanks.

Here are some pics, I will update with progress.

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That is NOT a red light lol!Attachment 464793
04-04-2015 03:01 AM
Kntry I just finished doing the treatment again.

This time, I used 8 Tbls. in 5 gallons for an hour, after taking out the Betta and my moss wall which does not have any algae. (it's new)

I'll post what it looks like tomorrow.

Thanks
04-04-2015 02:08 AM
anastasisariel Results are seen within 24 hours in most cases. BTW, DarkCobra hasnt' been active for a while.
04-03-2015 11:54 PM
Kntry How long does it usually take to see results?

Wednesday night, I took the Betta out, turned off the filtration and put 4 tbls in 5 gallons with tons of air. I let it sit 15 minutes, did about 90% water change and added Excel.

The hair algae looks a little lighter but nothing outstanding and the BBA is still on the glass.

Should I do another treatment tonight?
04-03-2015 09:07 PM
nova777 Hi DarkCobra,
I've been having BBA issues for months now and am
on the verge of losing all my plants.So after reading your thread here,
I went ahead and followed your "One-Two Punch" procedure,
(Two tbsp. per Gal h2o2),to the letter.I'm already seeing the algae
turn white and pink.I've never used Excell before,so I used the standard
5ml per10 Gal dose.While looking at the reaction under the light,my
daughter pointed 3 or 4 small fry I hadn't noticed until after the treatment.
I'll post again on this thread on further results and how well the fry do.
Thanks so much for posting this thread.
Cheers,David
03-23-2015 01:54 AM
dswiese Just trying this tonight. only had 6 tbls for a 55g. will post results. also dosed excel at initial dose rate, post water change
03-21-2015 11:11 PM
rawlins06 Just did 1.5 tbsp per 10 gallon on my 20l, 30min later did a 25% water change. There is a lot of pearling and my fish and snails seem fine.
03-17-2015 10:23 PM
DayOlder I have two tanks both of which I do 25% WC on every Sunday. I alternate which tank I start first and add 2TBSP/ 10 gal of H2O2 to the other tank, also turning off the filter and on the power head. By the time I have the first tank done the second tank is ready for the WC. This way it takes me no additional time and each tank is treated every other week. Since I have started doing this I have quit treating daily with excel, in fact I have not used excel at all and both tanks have remained algae free. I have had no loss of livestock or plants although my octocinclus do not seem to like it. I started this after doing the 1-2.
03-17-2015 09:44 PM
mot
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Originally Posted by DayOlder View Post
Mot is that quote right.? I've only been using 4Tbsp per 10 gal.
Holy smokes no. 4tbsp per 10 gallons. Yikes...fixed above as well.


Thanks for the catch.
03-17-2015 07:17 PM
DayOlder
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Originally Posted by mot View Post
I used the 4Tbsp per gallon of H2O2.
Mot is that quote right.? I've only been using 4Tbsp per 10 gal.
03-17-2015 03:28 PM
mot Wanted to chime in that this procedure worked for me as well. I used the 4Tbsp per 10 gallons of H2O2. I removed the fish (5 oto's) and the biomedia from the cannister. Added the H2O2 ran the pumps for 45 minutes. Did a 80% water change. Added the recommended initial dosage of Excel. Let the tank run for about an hour and then added the biomedia and fish back to the tank.

Why did I do it? I had a filamentous algae outbreak after a rescape three weeks ago. The tank had three types, a little bit of staghorn, Long stringy brown algae maybe filamentous diatoms (not sure never ran into this before) and a green thread algae that was growing about 4 inches a day in the high flow areas.

Pretty sure it was all due to disturbing the soil where the Osmocote Root tabs were placed only a couple weeks earlier. Of course I completely forgot about them as I was happily changing the slope.

Here is my observations after the treatment
Same Day:
Almost all algae looked unhealthy by the end of the day. Most of the staghorn turned pink. Brown algae turned grey. Green algae looked a darker green.
Next Day: All staghorn was pink, Brown algae now grey and melting...maybe only 50% of it left. Green hair algae now grey and visibly less of it.
3rd Day: Staghorn is now melting, Brown algae is almost gone...only whitish fuzz left where it was thickest. Green hair algae now grey and about 75% of it is melted.
4th Day: Very little algae left. Anything visible is a grey or white color and looks dead.

Fish: no issues - taking them out I didnt expect any
Plants: Mini Pellia was burnt pretty bad. May lose it but the Flame and willow Moss look fine, Java Fern roots are missing the fine fuzzy appearance when they are healthy. But they were covered in the brown algae so not sure if they were already damaged. No other plants show any negative signs of the treatment.

Plant list: Staurogyne repens, cyperus helferi, Java Ferns, Anubias Nana, varied species of Bucephelendara, HC, Rotala Colorata, AR mini, Crypt Balansae, mini pellia, flame moss, willow moss
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