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03-01-2013 04:33 AM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by happi View Post
Tom i thought your water already have a GH from tap
Yes, 2 degrees, about 35 ppm or thereabouts.
I still add more Gh booster.

Shalu used to go nuts with GH booster, hitting 9-10 degrees, his colors and fish looked awesome.

I do not know, I suppose I could lard more in there, but I'm not really going to get more growth, eg, the ppm's are non limiting, but they may enhance coloration more in some species.

I tend to dose a KNOWN Gh booster for the Mg and the added K+, less for the Ca and SO4 etc.

Now I could add MgSO4 to the trace mix and then mix some K2SO4 into the KNO3, but it's not much hassle and added Ca++ never did no harm in any plant species I've ever kept. Or I could test the tap all the time and dose based on those results, which frankly, its way too much hassle when a simpler solution is available. I'm good at knowing what Mg limitation looks like, I learned the hard way 15 years ago. PMDD helped me a lot.
03-01-2013 12:32 AM
happi
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Originally Posted by plantbrain View Post
I add about 1 teaspoon per 50-60 Gal of tank 1-2x a week of GH booster from Aquariumfertilizer.com

This seems fine for the most demanding plants.
I suppose I could add more, but it's not likely a limiting factor.
Tom i thought your water already have a GH from tap
02-28-2013 07:08 PM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by nickdu View Post
What is the proper gH for a planted tank?
I add about 1 teaspoon per 50-60 Gal of tank 1-2x a week of GH booster from Aquariumfertilizer.com

This seems fine for the most demanding plants.
I suppose I could add more, but it's not likely a limiting factor.
02-28-2013 06:57 PM
nickdu As far as dosing the Macro & Micro Mix i have, do i still need to dose if my nitrate levels are high enough or should i only dose when the levels get too low? Or does it not have anything to do with nitrates?
02-25-2013 05:08 PM
latchdan
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Originally Posted by micheljq View Post
Hello, I will try to answer. If I am mistaken please correct me.

Not sure there is a proper GH, depends on what kind of plants you have. Some will grow better in soft water, some will prefer hard water.

As for me, my tap water is soft (GH of 2-3). I have 2 little calcareaous rocks in my 65G tank, that make the GH go higher (now it is at 6), for 2 reasons.

If the GH is not too soft (at least 3), there should be enough calcium and magnesium in the water for most plants, it is commonly belived.
If the GH is not too soft, the risk of pH fluctuations is less risky.

Forgive my english, it is not my native language.

Michel.
KH determines the buffering capabilities of the ph not GH. But everything else seems right. You also may want harder water if you have snails or other inverts because they need more calcium for their shells.
I wish I lived where there was soft water. Just moved and my gh is 17 out of the tap and kh is 13. Waiting on RO water is a pain.
02-25-2013 03:25 PM
micheljq
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Originally Posted by nickdu View Post
What is the proper gH for a planted tank?
Hello, I will try to answer. If I am mistaken please correct me.

Not sure there is a proper GH, depends on what kind of plants you have. Some will grow better in soft water, some will prefer hard water.

As for me, my tap water is soft (GH of 2-3). I have 2 little calcareaous rocks in my 65G tank, that make the GH go higher (now it is at 6), for 2 reasons.

If the GH is not too soft (at least 3), there should be enough calcium and magnesium in the water for most plants, it is commonly belived.
If the GH is not too soft, the risk of pH fluctuations is less risky.

Forgive my english, it is not my native language.

Michel.
02-24-2013 07:41 PM
nickdu What is the proper gH for a planted tank?
02-23-2013 08:34 PM
Hoppy When I lived in the county of Sacramento, the Arden-Arcade district, not the city, much of the water supply came from wells, scattered over that water district. My water then was much harder than it is now. I hate Seachem Equilibrium, so I quit using it. I think I need to buy a different GH bulder and see if that makes a difference in my low light tank.
02-21-2013 10:42 PM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by puopg View Post
So true, i live in folsom, i think we share same if not similar water. Although API test kits aren't accurate, fact that they change after the first drop for testing GH and KH leads me to believe I have very soft water.
San Juan Water district, same water.
Super soft, RO like.
02-21-2013 10:22 PM
puopg
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Originally Posted by plantbrain View Post
Nick, Sac tap water is extremely soft.
American river water basically.
A few areas might get other source, but not likely.
East up 50/80, same deal, super soft, you need GH booster.

Do a large water change, say 60-70%, then dose after.

Most of the issues once you add ferts: CO2.
So true, i live in folsom, i think we share same if not similar water. Although API test kits aren't accurate, fact that they change after the first drop for testing GH and KH leads me to believe I have very soft water.
02-21-2013 09:38 PM
plantbrain Nick, Sac tap water is extremely soft.
American river water basically.
A few areas might get other source, but not likely.
East up 50/80, same deal, super soft, you need GH booster.

Do a large water change, say 60-70%, then dose after.

Most of the issues once you add ferts: CO2.
02-21-2013 08:00 PM
Darkblade48
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Originally Posted by nickdu View Post
So my KH2PO4 came in. I was wondering how much i should start off dosing?

I mixed ~2.25mL of KH2PO4 into a 75mL solution of water. Taken from the ratio suggested in link below "mix 7.2 grams or 1.5 teaspoons or 0.50 tablespoons into 250 ml of water":
http://www.rexgrigg.com/dosing.htm

Given that... it says 1mL of the solution doses "0.53 ppm of PO4 in 10 gallons of water". I have a 40 gallon tank. and my Nitrates showed between 80-100. Does that mean i need to get 10ppm phosphates in the water? that's a lot of dosing? no?
I would first try to lower those nitrate levels (to say 20 ppm or lower, preferably) before dosing your phosphates.
02-21-2013 07:55 PM
nickdu So my KH2PO4 came in. I was wondering how much i should start off dosing?

I mixed ~2.25mL of KH2PO4 into a 75mL solution of water. Taken from the ratio suggested in link below "mix 7.2 grams or 1.5 teaspoons or 0.50 tablespoons into 250 ml of water":
http://www.rexgrigg.com/dosing.htm

Given that... it says 1mL of the solution doses "0.53 ppm of PO4 in 10 gallons of water". I have a 40 gallon tank. and my Nitrates showed between 80-100. Does that mean i need to get 10ppm phosphates in the water? that's a lot of dosing? no?
02-18-2013 08:14 AM
herns
Re: Dry Ferts, Dosing, Plant Growth & Stunned Algae Growth

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Originally Posted by nickdu View Post
Mono Potassium Phosphate has already been ordered waiting for it's arrival next week.



Is it practical to try using water from the drinking water stations as they have undergone a good stage of filtration so i'm sure there is nothing dissolved as much in the water which will make it softer i assume?

I am also wondering if using the drinking water will help tetras or tiger barbs mate and spawn? I know there are other things involved, but this will help? any idea?
Good question on the second pharagraph.
I have a friend who does that, using drinking station water to do pwc every 2 weeks. He has good growth on plants.
Water shops uses RO. I've seen one close to my place and they have excellent stages of filtration.

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02-18-2013 07:35 AM
nickdu I cant wait for those phosphates to come in! My plants will hopefully grow well.
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