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02-21-2013 10:13 PM
Bandit1200 I am running the pond filter exclusively on the 125 and no issues to date. It's relatively lightly stocked at the moment, but that should change shortly as it's housing a couple dozen marmokrebs at the moment. I already have another one for the other side of the tank when the population increases.
02-17-2013 08:50 PM
mott No, I only have them in case of a power loss but breeders have been using sponge filters exclusively for years!
02-17-2013 07:14 PM
Elyssa Hi Mott,
Good to hear. The sponge is already been going for months. No on the battery operated pumps, I actually have a (2) APC Battery back ups for the computer. I just use a 1watt pump haven't had a problem.

Do you run the sponges exclusively?
02-17-2013 04:58 PM
mott You could run the sponges by themselves for sure, just leave the hob on while the new sponges seed, two weeks should be fine.
Do you have battery pumps for the outages?
I have one and it worked great during sandy
You could hook them up together so when the power goes out you don't have to do a thing.
You probably know this already just pointing out the obvious lol
02-17-2013 12:54 PM
Elyssa Bandit1200,
I do love the simplicity of the good ole' -low tech sponge filters! I think I'm just going to keep mine in and running, now that I've thought more about it. Are you running the sponge exclusively?
02-17-2013 01:10 AM
Originally Posted by OldJedi View Post
I don't believe that any sponge filter is rated for a 125 gallon tank. You must mean 125 gal/hr powerhead flow. Personally, I would be running two power filters like the penguin or aqua clears.
Really? I have this running in my 125.

02-15-2013 11:42 PM
HD Blazingwolf Lots of spill, but not as much as u would expect considering at full on its 324 watts. Its hung 10 inches over the tank. But the reflectors generally direct the light down

Bulbs should last about 12-18 months before the spectral shift occurs. They produce lots of light, but they dont quite grow plants as well
02-15-2013 10:58 PM
Elyssa Hey thanks, for giving me something else to mull over. I didn't even think about about the possibilities of multi bulbs with different durations.

I do plan on hanging the fixture(s). How much overspill are you getting from your light and do you have it enclosed to more contain it?

How often are you replacing your bulbs?
02-15-2013 02:07 PM
HD Blazingwolf i would go with one 54 watt

to affect light levels, u can adjust up or down by hanging the fixture
for instance, my 75 gallon has 6x54 watt bulbs suspended 10 inches above the tank
two are on for 9 hours all six are on for 4 hours
distance spreads the light intensity,
you will have more control with one fixture than having to change multiple fixtures
plus more fixtures, means more bulb costs
02-15-2013 12:24 PM
Elyssa Well, even more inspirational to hear how quickly you caught on! I over analyze everything and just want to know....I hate wasting time and like to be pro-active. Having any casualties because of my own to avoid that as much as possible.

Figuring out lights has been a challenge.
02-15-2013 11:51 AM
HD Blazingwolf 24x2 HO lights may or may not be medium-high light. IT depends 80% on the reflectors
and 20% on the quality of he ballasts used.

a well built t5 normal output fixture will probably suit all your needs. one that spans the length of the tank

THANKS!! im glad my thread is inspiring. a year ago, i was still growing tufts of algae, or having mishapen leaves.
02-15-2013 11:28 AM
Elyssa HDblazingwolf, your analogy makes perfect sense and I get it w/ co2.

lauraleellbp, I do realize that everything is evolving, I was more looking for the principles and scientific type theories behind what is being recommended.

HD Blazingwolf, I checked your journal out and awesome! Your lights are great!!!! Your journal---very inspirational.

Thanks again to both of you.
02-15-2013 12:43 AM
lauraleellbp Honestly, the vast majority of books are pretty out of date- especially in terms of equiment recommendations, as models are changing all the time.

Since you aren't setting up a high light/CO2-injected tank, really- just keep your life easier and don't worry about CO2, at all. (Most of the debates about surface agitation on non-injected tanks are just academic and nothing more than speculation, anyways.)

Stick with "low light" plants, and you should be fine.

A lot about planted tanks really is trial and error. Go ahead and use your current filter, and see how it works! If you find dead spots in your tank and need more flow, add more. If you find debris builds up and need more mechanical filtration, add more. If one species of plant just doesn't grow like you want it to, try something else.... Till you end up with something that works for you.

The one thing that low light tanks DO require- more than anything else- is patience. So be patient with yourself, too! You really don't have to absorb it all at once!
02-14-2013 11:48 PM
HD Blazingwolf Walstad wrote a book, and has some good info on it
Plants unless growing fast or with great biomass cannot be the sole filtration of what we as aquarist consider a stocked tank

It requires lots of plants and very few fish.. so filtration and water movement are very good for us

As to the co2 bubble thing.. plants are going to use whats available and adjust their metabolism to such.. dirted tanks release co2 from decay as does food, and so on. But without good oxygenation these bacterium cannot produce said co2. Or better yet, they will but will use available oxygen and starve ur fish of it
So in a low tech tank its simple to have decent surface agitation which will promote gas exchange oxygen and carbon and plants will adjust
Bubblers dont remove co2 in a non injected tank. They only increase it by increasing surface agitation if no co2 is added.
The amount recieved is minimal, this is why you want low light, keeping things stable will allow the plants to adjust, much as you adjust to higher or lower altitudes for oxygen consumption

For your sanity, co2 isnt a factor until u increase light levels.
nless you want to know the science behind everything!
02-14-2013 11:10 PM
Elyssa Hi,

Change, not afraid mind is constantly changing as I take in new info that makes sense. But I won't act until I'm 100% sure and the facts all add up.

I read that bubblers/air wands are good for planted tanks, then I read you shouldn't use them, it takes co2 out faster, then I read it helps with co2 if your not injecting it, and on and on, back and forth.

Probably trying to put that on as a pre-filter, wouldn't work, without me cutting it down a bit. This filter is the reticulated foam and is pretty coarse compared to the others.

Could you recommend any good books? I know nothing is set in stone and constantly evolving.

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