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02-23-2013 02:33 PM
fattboa EDIT: Nevermind. Different connections so will have to redo/research everything.
Edit 2: Can I attach the metering valve directly to regulator? Metering valve is 1/8" swagelok tube fittings and regulator is 5/8" female. Solenoids cost as much as the regulator so will avoid.
Just so you know the headache Im dealing with: co2 tank is cga320, regulator input is British standard, regulator output is 5/8" female and metering valve is 1/8" swagelok tube.
02-21-2013 02:14 AM
Darkblade48
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Originally Posted by fattboa View Post
I doubt I can import Israeli products.
Anyone have an idea if nitrogen purging regulators work?
I believe these may work; you will probably want to get the one that has two gauges instead of a flow gauge, etc.
02-20-2013 10:15 PM
fattboa I doubt I can import Israeli products.
Anyone have an idea if nitrogen purging regulators work?
02-17-2013 09:33 PM
kevmo911 I didn't even think of Ham-Let. But now that I am, I'm wondering if it's particularly difficult or costly to get anything to Kuwait from Israel.

The Ham-Let site is kinda nice in that you can type in a Swagelok part # and get a Ham-Let match. Unfortunately there are no prices posted, so you have to request a quote.
02-17-2013 06:10 PM
Bettatail
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Found an angled metering valve marked Nupro, made by Swagelok. Apparently it's 1/8" and has Swagelok fittings? It is used so I have no idea if it is working or not. I've been searching about how to connect it and I understand it will be a challenge/headache but oh well. I believe it is a Swagelok SS angled metering valve, perhaps SS-SS2-A but an older version?


Sorry for the double post but it is for future reference if anyone in Kuwait will try to pursue a pressurized Co2. The shop's name is Al-Rayes and I believe only has two left. The shop is found in Shuwaikh industrial area on Bin-Nikhy crossroad (near Al-zeena street). Price is around 12 kwd. Good luck
it works well.
and if you can find ham-let metering valves in the region, they are good metering valves also, ham-let is made in Israel.
the more choice or the ham-let valve metering valve models, you can check the selection thread link in my signature.
02-17-2013 04:31 PM
fattboa
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Originally Posted by kevmo911 View Post
Yes, that's an old SS-SS2-A.

SS-2-TA-1-2 is what you'd use to go from the tube fittings to 1/8" NPT. Any manufacturer that makes double ferrule compression fittings will have an adapter like that.

Also, that Harris 25-100 should work fine. You just need to remove the old nipple and nut and replace it with whatever cylinder fitting you use there.

edit - you'll likely need new ferrules. SS-200-SET
I am extremely grateful for your answer. There is no official Swagelok dealer so I'll have to dig around for the ferrules/adapter.
I contemplated the Harris (it was 20$ after all) but nobody repairs/rebuilds them in Kuwait and I found it used at a less than reputable place so I'll buy a Uniweld Co2 regulator instead.
Thank you once again.
02-17-2013 03:11 PM
kevmo911 Yes, that's an old SS-SS2-A.

SS-2-TA-1-2 is what you'd use to go from the tube fittings to 1/8" NPT. Any manufacturer that makes double ferrule compression fittings will have an adapter like that.

Also, that Harris 25-100 should work fine. You just need to remove the old nipple and nut and replace it with whatever cylinder fitting you use there.

edit - you'll likely need new ferrules. SS-200-SET
02-17-2013 12:57 PM
fattboa Found an angled metering valve marked Nupro, made by Swagelok. Apparently it's 1/8" and has Swagelok fittings? It is used so I have no idea if it is working or not. I've been searching about how to connect it and I understand it will be a challenge/headache but oh well. I believe it is a Swagelok SS angled metering valve, perhaps SS-SS2-A but an older version?


Sorry for the double post but it is for future reference if anyone in Kuwait will try to pursue a pressurized Co2. The shop's name is Al-Rayes and I believe only has two left. The shop is found in Shuwaikh industrial area on Bin-Nikhy crossroad (near Al-zeena street). Price is around 12 kwd. Good luck
02-13-2013 10:19 PM
fattboa Since this is a related topic I'll ask here. Found an oxygen regulator (Harris 25-100c) but that won't work I believe. I dont see any CGA540 (oxygen?) to CGA320 adapter and I dont think they make any.
Found also a Harris 25-500c. Apparently it is called a nitrogen purging regulator? 0-500 delivery pressure but I'm afraid that is all I found. What's a purging regulator anyway? Cannot find much info
Also found another regulator by Western enteprises, however it is a 0-6000psi inlet and 0-200 delivery pressure. No other information but from the website it's an inert gas regulator but not under liquid cylinder regulator??
There's a difference between liquid cylinder regulator and gas regulator? Isn't an inert gas liquified under pressure?
This is all very confusing, why can't we find co2 regulators like normal people?
02-12-2013 08:44 PM
sub-80
Re: Which should I get? Only found the following CO2 Regulators

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I know how expensive they are. I was shocked when I heard the price for a I think an 8kg aluminum tank.
In the Friday market itself opposite Al-Rai nurseries, go to the used section. Find the sellers on the fountain side. Hopefully you'll find some cylinders. Look for the CGA 320 engraving denoting it's a Co2 tank (I think?) You can also check the cylinder for the last time it was tested, search for a metal stamp on the cylinder of the last test date. In the same area and nearby you'll find the regulators as well (hopefully).
Will check it out.
02-12-2013 08:38 PM
fattboa
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8kg aluminium Co2 tank for 8kd? ROC sells an empty 3kg aluminum Co2 tank for 38kd. Where's this place?
I know how expensive they are. I was shocked when I heard the price for a I think an 8kg aluminum tank.
In the Friday market itself opposite Al-Rai nurseries, go to the used section. Find the sellers on the fountain side. Hopefully you'll find some cylinders. Look for the CGA 320 engraving denoting it's a Co2 tank (I think?) You can also check the cylinder for the last time it was tested, search for a metal stamp on the cylinder of the last test date. In the same area and nearby you'll find the regulators as well (hopefully).
02-12-2013 08:33 PM
sub-80
Re: Which should I get? Only found the following CO2 Regulators

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I'll also ask the shop that I found the metering valves at about the regulator. He has all types of valves/pipe equipment so he should have regulators as well. I think inert gas regulators (argon etc) should work with an adapter (do they?)
Worst case scenario we'll go around all the welding shops in Shuwaikh asking if they have co2/inert gas regulators they want to sell.
As for the solenoids, they're not really really necessary. I'm not even thinking about getting one since it's hard enough to find the rest. Btw Friday market is an excellent place to get Co2 tanks. Got an aluminium 8kg or 10kg CO2 tank that's still certified and full for I think 8kd. I'm going tomorrow to buy all compatible regulators before you :P I'll tell you if I found any
8kg aluminium Co2 tank for 8kd? ROC sells an empty 3kg aluminum Co2 tank for 38kd. Where's this place?
02-12-2013 08:16 PM
fattboa
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Sure. Only one place sells regulators in Friday Market and that are DUPLA brand Regulators and at nearby mall they sell easy co2 regulators. But their prices are ridiculous. I heard there is a store in Salmiya from an employee at roc. Apparently that store sells CO2 regulator with Co2 tank that they buy from ROC.
I'll also ask the shop that I found the metering valves at about the regulator. He has all types of valves/pipe equipment so he should have regulators as well. I think inert gas regulators (argon etc) should work with an adapter (do they?)
Worst case scenario we'll go around all the welding shops in Shuwaikh asking if they have co2/inert gas regulators they want to sell.
As for the solenoids, they're not really really necessary. I'm not even thinking about getting one since it's hard enough to find the rest. Btw Friday market is an excellent place to get Co2 tanks. Got an aluminium 8kg or 10kg CO2 tank that's still certified and full for I think 8kd. I'm going tomorrow to buy all compatible regulators before you :P I'll tell you if I found any
02-12-2013 06:45 PM
sub-80
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Me neither. Anybody else knows?
It seems that we need a pneumatic solenoid? Parker produce solenoids as well as needle/metering valves. You can ask or call the guys here http://www.petrotech.ae/store.html# since they seem to be a Parker dealer. Maybe they will have both? If not I am afraid you'll need to strip search Shuwaikh. Seems very ironic a petroleum rich country is quite poor in valves/regulators. If you searched harder I am somewhat certain you'll find what you need but you will spend A LOT of time since the people working have absolutely no clue except for prices. You will need to search the inventory yourself.
In a couple of days I'll be back on the search since my Co2 tank is up to date. I'll go looking in the Friday market tomorrow (yes on a Wednesday). If I found anything I'll notify you. If you need help with anything (aquarium/hydroponics/aquaponics etc) just pm me.
Sure. Only one place sells regulators in Friday Market and that are DUPLA brand Regulators and at nearby mall they sell easy co2 regulators. But their prices are ridiculous. I heard there is a store in Salmiya from an employee at roc. Apparently that store sells CO2 regulator with Co2 tank that they buy from ROC.
02-12-2013 11:34 AM
fattboa
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Originally Posted by sub-80 View Post
I asked them there for a solenoid for CO2 and they said no. They said they had for air or water I think. Not sure if that works.
Me neither. Anybody else knows?
It seems that we need a pneumatic solenoid? Parker produce solenoids as well as needle/metering valves. You can ask or call the guys here http://www.petrotech.ae/store.html# since they seem to be a Parker dealer. Maybe they will have both? If not I am afraid you'll need to strip search Shuwaikh. Seems very ironic a petroleum rich country is quite poor in valves/regulators. If you searched harder I am somewhat certain you'll find what you need but you will spend A LOT of time since the people working have absolutely no clue except for prices. You will need to search the inventory yourself.
In a couple of days I'll be back on the search since my Co2 tank is up to date. I'll go looking in the Friday market tomorrow (yes on a Wednesday). If I found anything I'll notify you. If you need help with anything (aquarium/hydroponics/aquaponics etc) just pm me.
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