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03-29-2006 06:03 AM
Livebearer101
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Originally Posted by Thanks
I agree, this is the best and most painless way of (the word you're looking for is euthenasia, not euthamism. Even that is wrong, the word is euphemism, meaning a good way to say things, like a synonym. )

Best of luck with your fish.
Sorry... lol, its not often i bugger up a spelling so badly, thanks for correcting me

Im so sad to hear you finally put your fish to rest. I think you did the right thing and i have alot of respect for you. Well done. It may not seem like it but i think it's something to be proud of.
03-29-2006 02:20 AM
jasonh
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Originally Posted by Livebearer101
Put a small tub of water in the freezer and leave it to the stage where it just gets that tiny layer of ice on top. Then net the fish and gently place him in the bucket. The fish dont feel a thing and it's quick. Best way of euthamism in my opinion.
Just did this, works quick like you said. Thanks for the tip. We figured it'd probably just be best for her in the long run. The scales were getting more and more pointy, so I was 99% sure she wasn't pregnant (that, and the gravid spot was red, not black)

03-28-2006 10:55 PM
putty Dropsy....scales sticking out like that on the top view is a classic sign. Too bad.
03-28-2006 10:29 PM
Thanks
Quote:
Originally Posted by Livebearer101
Put a small tub of water in the freezer and leave it to the stage where it just gets that tiny layer of ice on top. Then net the fish and gently place him in the bucket. The fish dont feel a thing and it's quick. Best way of euthamism in my opinion.
I agree, this is the best and most painless way of (the word you're looking for is euthenasia, not euthamism. Even that is wrong, the word is euphemism, meaning a good way to say things, like a synonym. )

Best of luck with your fish.
03-28-2006 08:42 PM
Livebearer101 Put a small tub of water in the freezer and leave it to the stage where it just gets that tiny layer of ice on top. Then net the fish and gently place him in the bucket. The fish dont feel a thing and it's quick. Best way of euthamism in my opinion.
03-28-2006 08:20 PM
jasonh
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Originally Posted by spdskr
A couple of things you might want to look for:

1. Angle between anal and ventral fins and size of gravid spot. The steeper the angle and the larger the spot (you may be able to see the eyes of the babies in here) the more likely your fish is about to give birth.
I'll have to check this when I get home.

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2. Abnormal behavior. If your fish is remaining stationary/inactive either on the bottom, surface, or withing the confines of bushy plants she may be symptomatic of dropsy. Also if the fish ceases to defficate or does so abnormally she may also be symptomatic of poor health.
Sometimes she just hangs out near the top, or in the plants and is still, and other times she's just swimming around the tank like she's fine.

She deficates normally as far as I can tell.

I'm still crossing my fingers that she's just megapregnant, but in all honestly, I seriously doubt it now. I don't know if I should just let her be in the tank, or if I should just put her down early. My fiance doesn't want to put her in the freezer, so idunno.
03-28-2006 08:12 PM
filipnoy85 This thread makes me just as sad as seeing a guppie get too weak and die after a rigorous birth. I feel your pain.
03-28-2006 07:28 PM
Livebearer101 Id really love to see her pregnant but im afraid she has a very bad case of dropsy that one day soon will knock her out quicker than lightning. Im really sorry about the endler and i hope somehow she does get better or that you can prove me wrong some time in the near future and that she is mega pregnant.
03-28-2006 07:04 PM
spdskr A couple of things you might want to look for:

1. Angle between anal and ventral fins and size of gravid spot. The steeper the angle and the larger the spot (you may be able to see the eyes of the babies in here) the more likely your fish is about to give birth.

2. Abnormal behavior. If your fish is remaining stationary/inactive either on the bottom, surface, or withing the confines of bushy plants she may be symptomatic of dropsy. Also if the fish ceases to defficate or does so abnormally she may also be symptomatic of poor health.

I have had this illness affect my several of my older female platies, but hopefully your guppy is just pregnant.
03-28-2006 05:53 PM
jasonh This fish is weird. One minute she looks like she's about to croak, the next minute she's swimming around happily and eating like a flippin' pig. She looks kinda square now too...still don't know about her... She has been moved into a separate container inside the tank though
03-27-2006 04:05 AM
Oqsy it looks like dropsy to me as well. dropsy is a symptom, not a disease. it can have varied causes, but my impression is that once they reach this point, the damage is done. in all cases i've encountered, no amount of medication will help. aquarium salt probably won't do any good, but it's not like it's going to cost you an arm and a leg. it IS possible that's she's just pregnant and bloated, but it looks like the scales are protruding, and i've never seen or heard of that in healthy pregnant livebearers. I usually euthanize any fish that develop dropsy for their sake... I used to treat every little ailment my fish had, but ended up with just as many deaths, if not more, than when I let things take their course, and eliminate obviously ill fish from the tank. (keep in mind I *do* have a UV sterilizer, so ich and the like are no longer a threat... so it's easy for me to advocate a "less meds" approach. those without UVs are left in a tougher spot). In any case, best of luck, and I hope she drops 500 babies for you! (if she does, can you spare 3-4 females and a couple males?)

Oqsy
03-27-2006 02:12 AM
jasonh Well, it's lookin like some of the scales on her under-belly are sticking out a bit. her sides and top are still smooth and shiny though. I just fed them to watch more closely than usual...she goes nutso at feeding, but it doesn't look like she's actually eating anything. She'll chase pieces of the food around and nip at it sometimes, but I don't think she's taking any in...

That's a bummer. I was all expecting I was just gonna get a bazillion babies, and now idunno. should I try to put some aquarium salt in and see what happens or something?
03-27-2006 01:46 AM
sarahbobarah Well, the easiest way to tell is if her scales are flat and shiny on hyer body, or if they're sticking out, I really can't tell from the photos for sure, but if she's eating ok, then she's most likely just prego.
03-27-2006 01:41 AM
gbhil I have several hundred Endler's here, and can say with 100% certainty that that is NOT how big they usually get when pregnant.

I'm not saying she has any type of illness, she could just be "super preggo" and drop 20 babies or so

Or maybe she's just a piggy at feeding time as well as knocked up?

Good luck with her
03-27-2006 01:28 AM
jasonh hmm...well, she has quite the appetite, and I don't know what "grave constitutional signs" means. I don't think she's lethargic. She does stay put now and again, just like our last pregnant guppy did before she dropped, but she'll zoom around the tank once in a while too...
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