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02-25-2013 10:05 PM
Cinbos
I plan on making a mineralized substrate for my tank

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Originally Posted by marcnc View Post
I am not sure about those. I think I might just quit with the MTS, after I spent days getting it all sifted, I realized I used wrong type of soil. I am not up for doing it again, so now I think I am just going to use the miracle gro organic choice potting mix.

Kinda fed up with it at this point.
Thats exactly how I feel and i haven't even started! It has just been a pain finding all the items to use. You might as well buy eco complete, fluorite, or floramax. Whats the deal with miracle grow organic choice? I have hear many people use this.
02-25-2013 10:00 PM
marcnc I am not sure about those. I think I might just quit with the MTS, after I spent days getting it all sifted, I realized I used wrong type of soil. I am not up for doing it again, so now I think I am just going to use the miracle gro organic choice potting mix.

Kinda fed up with it at this point.
02-25-2013 09:24 PM
Cinbos
I plan on making a mineralized substrate for my tank

Here is what I found at michaels














02-25-2013 06:10 PM
marcnc
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Originally Posted by Cinbos View Post
I have the potash, but I am a bit confused as to what type of clay to use...what do you all think? This is what I found at michaels

Oven bake clay
Polymer clay
Terra cotta clay
Red artist modeling clay

These were all the types. I was thinking terra cotta but not sure. I understand the redness comes from the iron, but I am not sure what type.
You want clay in powder form. Otherwise it real pain.

I just ordered some from Bailey Pottery Equipment Corp. This is what you want.

Item #C-020-012 Clay - Cedar Heights Redart, mine supposed to arrive on Tuesday.

I think it was about .75 cents a pound. Shipping wost the most expensive.

Also found Estes Dolomite on Amazon cheap for around 12 bucks, but I refuse to pay 33 dollars in shipping. Still on the hunt.
02-25-2013 03:03 AM
Cinbos
I plan on making a mineralized substrate for my tank

I have the potash, but I am a bit confused as to what type of clay to use...what do you all think? This is what I found at michaels

Oven bake clay
Polymer clay
Terra cotta clay
Red artist modeling clay

These were all the types. I was thinking terra cotta but not sure. I understand the redness comes from the iron, but I am not sure what type.
02-01-2013 04:16 AM
Cinbos
I plan on making a mineralized substrate for my tank

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Yes I do run CO2 but just recently started,It does help but I was growing a lot of plants without it.
Ok good. Gives me some confidence. Not running CO2, and I just added micro swords, we'll see how that works out.
02-01-2013 04:00 AM
mooncon Yes I do run CO2 but just recently started,It does help but I was growing a lot of plants without it.
02-01-2013 01:52 AM
Cinbos
I plan on making a mineralized substrate for my tank

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Originally Posted by mooncon View Post
I didn't use dolomite,as for the clay I put it in water for 3 or 4 days before I was ready then when I wet down the soil I just added the clay.By the time I used it,it was pretty much mush mixed real easy with the green sand and soil.My tank was cycled as it has been up for a few years so I drained all the water took out the substrait and changed to the mts and sand cap which was the existing black diamond blasting sand.I didn't wash any of the existing substrait.Then I put in the plants and I was good to go.I didn't wash any of my filters either so all I had to do was plug everything in add my fish and I guess all was good because I had no spikes of any kind.By the way its a 150 gallon with angels and discus.The tank is low to medium light that will grow just about anything I throw at it.
Thats good to hear that pretty much everything grows. Do you use CO2?
02-01-2013 01:45 AM
mooncon I didn't use dolomite,as for the clay I put it in water for 3 or 4 days before I was ready then when I wet down the soil I just added the clay.By the time I used it,it was pretty much mush mixed real easy with the green sand and soil.My tank was cycled as it has been up for a few years so I drained all the water took out the substrait and changed to the mts and sand cap which was the existing black diamond blasting sand.I didn't wash any of the existing substrait.Then I put in the plants and I was good to go.I didn't wash any of my filters either so all I had to do was plug everything in add my fish and I guess all was good because I had no spikes of any kind.By the way its a 150 gallon with angels and discus.The tank is low to medium light that will grow just about anything I throw at it.
01-31-2013 01:44 PM
Cinbos
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Originally Posted by homemadepopcorn View Post
I've had mild success with the oven method... It was hard to judge when the soil was actually dry and I ended up having to put 'bake' it two or three times. It didn't smell pleasant either.
I figured I would be doing the soak and dry process a few times. As far as the smell, I could care less. We'll see how it goes.
01-31-2013 06:01 AM
homemadepopcorn I've had mild success with the oven method... It was hard to judge when the soil was actually dry and I ended up having to put 'bake' it two or three times. It didn't smell pleasant either.
01-31-2013 04:29 AM
Cinbos
I plan on making a mineralized substrate for my tank

Also green sand?
01-31-2013 04:23 AM
Cinbos
I plan on making a mineralized substrate for my tank

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Originally Posted by mooncon View Post
I used muriate of potash and clay.I sprinkled the potash on the bottom of the aquarium fairly generous. Then I mixed the mineralized soil with clay a little green sand added water, mixing it up to a stiff consistency. Then I put a little of my cap which was black diamond blasting sand around the perimeter so when the soil was put in you couldn't see the soil.Now you put your mixture the the aquarium when that's done cap it. Then put a saucer on the cap so you can fill it without messing everything up.
What soil do you use? And no dolomite? Lastly, how do you prepare the clay to mix with the doil?
01-31-2013 03:59 AM
mooncon I used muriate of potash and clay.I sprinkled the potash on the bottom of the aquarium fairly generous. Then I mixed the mineralized soil with clay a little green sand added water, mixing it up to a stiff consistency. Then I put a little of my cap which was black diamond blasting sand around the perimeter so when the soil was put in you couldn't see the soil.Now you put your mixture the the aquarium when that's done cap it. Then put a saucer on the cap so you can fill it without messing everything up.
01-30-2013 08:16 PM
Cinbos
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I wonder, if I am unable to get ahold of Dolomite and Muriate of potash, could I just coat the bottom of the tank with the dry ferts I have (K2SO4, KNO3, KH2PO4, and CSM+B)?
Does anyone who has worked on their own substrate know if this will work out fine? Or should I go with the dolomite, Muriate of Potash, and Clay?
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