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01-29-2013 02:51 AM
gregor
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Originally Posted by somewhatshocked View Post
Honestly, you're better off buying more media than you need. If you have too much, you can always sell it on the forum, trade it for plants or even keep it in a filter media bag stashed behind something inside your tank for when a friend wants a bacterial jumpstart when cycling a new tank.

Important note: When I say "friend"? I mean you. For when you eventually develop a serious case of Multiple Tank Syndrome after spending some time here on the forum.
Thanks, I appreciate all your help.
01-29-2013 12:32 AM
somewhatshocked Honestly, you're better off buying more media than you need. If you have too much, you can always sell it on the forum, trade it for plants or even keep it in a filter media bag stashed behind something inside your tank for when a friend wants a bacterial jumpstart when cycling a new tank.

Important note: When I say "friend"? I mean you. For when you eventually develop a serious case of Multiple Tank Syndrome after spending some time here on the forum.
01-28-2013 09:10 PM
gregor
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Originally Posted by somewhatshocked View Post
gregor: Some of the options I mentioned: ceramic rings (any brand), sponges, crushed lava rock, pot scrubbers, filter floss.

Matrix is great if you can find it on sale.

Most of my tanks are setup with ceramic rings, the Eheim stuff or matrix, then sponges, then polishing stuff like filter floss or pads and finally a pillow or two of Purigen.
Awesome, thanks. I think I'm going to order some Fluval Pre_Filter stuff for the mechanical stage:

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001CZXZEU

...then pick up cheap pot scrubbers for the biological stage.

On top of that I have the white (fine?) filter pad that Eheim makes for my filter and the little black carbon pad sits atop that.

However, I still can't find a single document on Eheim's site, or in the user manual, which states exactly how much volume I have available for media in each section of the filter.
01-28-2013 09:05 PM
somewhatshocked gregor: Some of the options I mentioned: ceramic rings (any brand), sponges, crushed lava rock, pot scrubbers, filter floss.

Matrix is great if you can find it on sale.

Most of my tanks are setup with ceramic rings, the Eheim stuff or matrix, then sponges, then polishing stuff like filter floss or pads and finally a pillow or two of Purigen.
01-28-2013 08:58 PM
gregor Here's another post that details a lot of options. This is pretty much exactly what I was looking for.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/fo...o-Filter-Media

Hope that helps someone
01-28-2013 06:47 PM
Simplicity
Purchased used Eheim filter and have questions

+1 matrix
01-28-2013 06:43 PM
exv152 IMO this is the best biological media out there. http://www.seachem.com/Products/prod...es/Matrix.html
01-28-2013 06:34 PM
gregor Eheim's sites is seriously the worst ever.

Clicking on the FAQ link here, for example, goes to a 404. Clicking on the link for the manual or FAQ on the product page goes to a 404. Terrible.

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Originally Posted by talontsiawd View Post
What you linked is what comes with the filter. In terms of using something else, I can't see how Eheim ceramic rings could be better than another brand so if I ever replaced mine, I would personally just buy a different brand. Nothing is wrong with buying the Eheim brand, the point is you really get the same from any brand.

I have always just setup my filters how they are advertised, minus the carbon. Well, I will use carbon if it comes with the filter and take it out on first cleaning and not replace it. Other than that, the only media I have added is Purigen by Seachem.
Thanks. Yeah, I'm bascially just trying to avoid paying Eheim's premium.
01-28-2013 06:19 PM
talontsiawd What you linked is what comes with the filter. In terms of using something else, I can't see how Eheim ceramic rings could be better than another brand so if I ever replaced mine, I would personally just buy a different brand. Nothing is wrong with buying the Eheim brand, the point is you really get the same from any brand.

I have always just setup my filters how they are advertised, minus the carbon. Well, I will use carbon if it comes with the filter and take it out on first cleaning and not replace it. Other than that, the only media I have added is Purigen by Seachem.
01-28-2013 05:59 PM
gregor Thanks for all the advice so far folks. It's been a big help.

Also, I found this which has helped me understand what's going on here:

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebi...iltrmedart.htm
01-28-2013 04:38 PM
exv152 There's only two types; mechanical and biologial. For your first time with a canister I would recommend you stick with the eheim brand until you become more familiar with the two types. Besides, eheim products will last you a lifetime with the exception of the fine white floss pads.
01-28-2013 04:31 PM
BenderBendingRodriguez So here is a guide from Rex Grigg on how he cleans and sets up his eheim classic:

http://www.rexgrigg.com/Eheim%20Clas...structions.htm

Hope that helps.
01-28-2013 04:25 PM
gregor
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Originally Posted by somewhatshocked View Post
No...?

I'm telling you that you can use whatever media you like in your filter.

Visit eheim.com if you want illustrated guides for layering ideas.

People generally start with the most course layer on the bottom and have the finest layer on the top.
The problem for me, without any experience in canister filters, is that "using whatever media I like" is meaningless to me. I don't have a base of knowledge here to start from. Thanks anyhow though.

The only guide on eheim.com I can find is the one I link to in the OP. Seems like they just stole the graphic.

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For example, I use about 2 inches of ceramic rings in my 2213, then a blue coarse filter pad followed by substrat-pro for the remainder of the volume. I use this on a tank without much solid waste and it works just fine. (Main purpose being biological filtration.)
Hmm, OK.

So as far as their scrub sponges go, could they replace both layers I described in the OP? It seems like that would work from what I'm reading.

Bascially, it looks like from here:

http://www.eheim.com/en_GB/guide/fre...tration-works#

I need something to replace the mechanical and biological layers. I'm guessing I can use the scrubbie sponge to at least replace the mechanical.
01-28-2013 04:08 PM
BenderBendingRodriguez For example, I use about 2 inches of ceramic rings in my 2213, then a blue coarse filter pad followed by substrat-pro for the remainder of the volume. I use this on a tank without much solid waste and it works just fine. (Main purpose being biological filtration.)
01-28-2013 03:58 PM
somewhatshocked No...?

I'm telling you that you can use whatever media you like in your filter.

Visit eheim.com if you want illustrated guides for layering ideas.

People generally start with the most course layer on the bottom and have the finest layer on the top.
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