|11-28-2013 05:00 AM|
|11-22-2013 03:39 AM|
I've read quite a bit on this threads and others like it and I just wanna say thanks to everyone that helps people out here. This is what i have to look forward to this weekend
|11-21-2013 04:24 PM|
Yeah I thought it was kind of odd too that the gauge pressure went up slowly like that. Hm now I'm wondering if the gauge is bad or something is wrong with this regulator.
Edit. weird. I just hooked it up again and this time the gauge shot up to 800psi right away. Maybe its because it hasn't been used in a while. I'm going to try and not obsess over it too much. Just waiting for all the parts now
|11-21-2013 07:48 AM|
You do not have oil filled gauges by any chance, do you?
|11-21-2013 05:56 AM|
Ok. I met with the guy and decided to get the Victor VTS-450D. This sucker is huge! I think I have all the parts I need ordered so should be able to get the regulator built by end of next week.
One thing I noticed about the Victor. When I hook it up and open the CO2 bottle, the High pressure gauge builds up to the 800psi pretty slowly. Took like maybe 30 seconds to 1 minute until the needle went to 800psi. Is that normal or is that something I need to worry about?
|11-20-2013 07:20 PM|
|jeremy va||That's interesting. The darn things are so cool though and they seem to all be less than $100-- I'm wondering how I could do some sort of mod so I wind up with something that functions as a regulator for a multi-tank feed but looks cool!|
|11-20-2013 06:32 PM|
Most of these set ups are custom made and are quite expensive. This is probably the reason why you dont see many people have them set up for CO2 reg builds.
Hope this info helps you.
|11-20-2013 04:47 PM|
ok I need some more help. I found a guy locally that is selling both a Victor VTS-450D and a Matheson 3122-350 regulator. I'm going to meet with him today and get one of the regulators. The problem is I can't decide which one to get?
The Victor is currently set up with a CGA-346 nipple for oxygen while the Matheson is set up with a CGA-350.
I like the Matheson because it is smaller and lighter but looking at the usage for CGA-350 makes me kind of nervous with all kinds of poisonous gas allowed(spec sheet for the matheson says non-corrosive gas only but seems like CGA-350 allows some corrosive gas?).
The Victor is set up for oxygen but from my research the thing is HUGE plus this one is missing the low pressure gauge so I'd need to get a new gauge for it.
Without knowing the history behind these regulators, I'm trying to see if it is possible to determine which one might have a less chance of being broken based solely on the fitting currently on the regulator.
Or am I totally over thinking this and should just close my eyes and pick one?
So yeah, a lot of paralysis by analysis happening here. Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. TIA
|11-20-2013 01:19 PM|
Q on wall mounts
Notwithstanding my previous post where I'm looking for a reg for immediate use I'd like to build my own system and have read this entire string and more. Josh built my last one but he is not building them anymore (:-(.
One thing I've seen on the auction site whose name shall not be mentioned are the set ups with flexible stainless high pressure hose. These look like they were salvaged from medical, computer or science applications. The thing that strikes me is that (assuming the regulator itself is working and useable in our world and assuming that it was not used for cyanide gas) the parts could be reconfigured so one could have a wall mounted regulator/needle valve/bubble counter with the co2 tank somewhere below. This is purely for looks as they say.
I clipped a photo below at random that has a matheson reg and some neat stainless tubing with swagelock fittings what look like cut off valves (but could be needle valves with a lever action, I suppose) and so on. It looks like the reg in this one is set up with two inputs -- presumably for two tanks. One would need to be plugged. It bears the model number 99111 which does not show up in Matheson's current product list so maybe it is a custom made application. It all looks like stainless from the photo but what do I know.
So assuming these things are functional and assuming that the reg itself is suitable for co2 I wondered if anyone has used one of these set ups to build a wall mounted rig and, if so, if there are any major issues to watch for? Come to think of it, I wonder why I have not seen wall mounts more often -- I think there is one example in this entire 14 page string... Thanks -- and also thank you for an incredibly useful string on building!
|11-20-2013 12:49 PM|
|jeremy va||If any of you builders have a decent quality reg "on the shelf" that can supply at least two tanks (i.e.: has a manifold with two or more needle valves/bubble counters I need to purchase one quickly. PM me please. Looks not so important as being in proper working condition. Thanks!|
|11-20-2013 01:12 AM|
You can adjust working pressure with the knob on the front of the regulator.
The regulator's maximum output pressure is the maximum speed of your car. Changing the speedometer's maximum to (say) 500 km/hour will not mean your car is capable of going 500 km/hour.
Adjusting the working pressure with the knob on the front of the regulator is like your accelerator pedal in the car.
Hope this clears up the confusion.
|11-19-2013 09:30 PM|
I would not consider changing any internal part in the regulator to suit my needs. More trouble than it is worth.
I was just curious because I've seen some regulators on ebay that are pretty cheap but some of them don't come with any gauges at all. Looking up the spec for the regulator and I see many options for output pressure. Was wondering if it was as easy as just putting on the gauge I want but from what you guys are telling me, I think its definitely more trouble than its worth.
|11-19-2013 09:05 PM|
|PlantedRich||On the lower end regs, things can be replaced but for the higher end, I would not feel equipted and ready to do the interior changes needed. There has to be a time when we admit avoiding trouble is better than fighting through.|
|11-19-2013 08:24 PM|
|kevmo911||That "something internal that would need to be changed" is very rarely done in this hobby. It would require knowing how to do it (which means the willingness to possibly trash one or more regs as you figure it out) and having the tools to do it. There are some posts from people who have done this - or claim to - and they say it's not hard, but generally the feeling is it's more trouble than it's worth. And it wouldn't require you to change the gauge, but it would probably help to do so in order to get accurate readings.|
|11-19-2013 07:46 PM|
Some of the ceramic diffusers require 30-40 psi and in the example I gave above, the spec sheet for the regulator has options for maximum output pressure from 15 psi to 100 psi.
I was just wondering if the 100psi rated regulator is the same as the 15psi one except having a different gauge. Sounds like there is something internal that would need to be changed to go from say the 15psi regulator to the 100psi regulator.
Once again thanks for your help.
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