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03-13-2013 07:55 AM
bluestems Just a note that when you look for cories, there are three dwarf cories that are supposed to be similar in personalities: corydorus pygmaeus, c. habrosus and c. hastatus.

I've only had the pygmy but you might find one of the other two locally, or you might like their coloration better.
03-12-2013 03:36 AM
bluestems They are hard to pass up, but I'd think you would want to wait at the very least a couple of weeks after getting your tank stabilized, and making sure you have a good maintenance routine down without any more ammonia spikes.

It'll be worth it in the end.
03-12-2013 03:24 AM
callisto9 Thanks for all your help Sherry. I found some dwarf/pygmy corys online. Very tempted. No one local has the little ones.
03-12-2013 02:46 AM
bluestems Yes, moving in the right direction!

You should only need another water change tomorrow, and maybe airline any remaining exposed mulm out. Then let's let it be until the weekend... unless something happens in the interim.
03-12-2013 02:07 AM
callisto9 Yes, I do know not to touch the biowheel.

Ammonia is now at between 0ppm and .25ppm. Getting better!
03-11-2013 10:24 PM
bluestems ps- do you know to never clean the biowheel?
03-11-2013 10:15 PM
bluestems The biological filtration is on your biowheel. While there may be some bacteria everywhere inside the filter, the main purpose of the blue pad is the chemical filtration of the charcoal. If the charcoal is full however, it begins to release the contaminates back into the water. That's why you have to change it every so often... more often if there's more contaminates. Given this past month, I think it definitely should be changed.

You can use the airline tubing again if you have time to try to remove the remaining exposed mulm off the plants and rocks. I'd also recommend trimming any dead leaves.

As always, avoid disturbing the substrate or uprooting the plants and causing any more water borne mulm. Things should be getting better.
03-11-2013 09:44 PM
callisto9 Yep, I mentioned it in post #94.

Re: changing the filter - will it do anything to the bacterial colony and start a mini-cycle? I've always read not to change the filter unless it's absolutely decomposing. The last time I changed it, I had another filter in there, too, cycling, before I took the old one out.

Doing a WC here in a few mins...

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There was a dead snail? That definitely would have contributed.

I'd change the filter. Carbon when it gets full will begin releasing the contaminates, and there's been more than normal lately. I wouldn't risk it. A fresh filter would only help.

Off to bed now, but let us know what the ammonia levels are after tomorrow's small wc. (remember, no big siphon or disturbing the substrate/plant roots. sorry to be redundant, I just don't want any more setbacks for you!)

Using the airline tubing is ok to get at the rest of the exposed mulm, and removing any dead plant leaves is good too. Hopefully no more dead snails, or fish.

Those little tetras deserve some frozen brine shrimp treat after all this gets resolved.
03-11-2013 06:45 AM
bluestems
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I changed the filter about three weeks ago. They are those blue pads with charcoal in them like this: Amazon.com: Marineland Rite-Size Cartridge B, 6-Pack: Pet Supplies

So I don't have a way to just change the carbon.

The glowlight tetras are very, very hardy!

I wonder if some of the ammo is from the dead snail I found today, too. He was all tore up and out of his shell. I'm guessing it'd be at least a day he was in there, dead.
There was a dead snail? That definitely would have contributed.

I'd change the filter. Carbon when it gets full will begin releasing the contaminates, and there's been more than normal lately. I wouldn't risk it. A fresh filter would only help.

Off to bed now, but let us know what the ammonia levels are after tomorrow's small wc. (remember, no big siphon or disturbing the substrate/plant roots. sorry to be redundant, I just don't want any more setbacks for you!)

Using the airline tubing is ok to get at the rest of the exposed mulm, and removing any dead plant leaves is good too. Hopefully no more dead snails, or fish.

Those little tetras deserve some frozen brine shrimp treat after all this gets resolved.
03-11-2013 05:53 AM
callisto9
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I hope so too. It's good that you double checked your water parameters as that last water change was necessary.

Did you change the carbon in your filter? That I would definitely do as well.

Once the ammonia level is down... and it should drop with the small daily water changes until it's down again... then you'll be out of the woods. Please just avoid disturbing the substrate or plants at all during this time. You don't want to add any more.

The fish you have left must be very hardy little guys, so I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll survive this.
I changed the filter about three weeks ago. They are those blue pads with charcoal in them like this:
Amazon.com: Marineland Rite-Size Cartridge B, 6-Pack: Pet Supplies Amazon.com: Marineland Rite-Size Cartridge B, 6-Pack: Pet Supplies

So I don't have a way to just change the carbon.

The glowlight tetras are very, very hardy!

I wonder if some of the ammo is from the dead snail I found today, too. He was all tore up and out of his shell. I'm guessing it'd be at least a day he was in there, dead.
03-11-2013 05:38 AM
bluestems ps- when you take water out in stages like you ended up doing today, I believe it's not as much of a shock to the fish as if you had done the large wc all at once.
03-11-2013 05:30 AM
bluestems
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OK, done. I probably changed out about 80% of the water today between the original WC, the airline tubing clean and the 3 gallon WC I just did.

Hope all my fishies are ok.
I hope so too. It's good that you double checked your water parameters as that last water change was necessary.

Did you change the carbon in your filter? That I would definitely do as well.

Once the ammonia level is down... and it should drop with the small daily water changes until it's down again... then you'll be out of the woods. Please just avoid disturbing the substrate or plants at all during this time. You don't want to add any more.

The fish you have left must be very hardy little guys, so I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll survive this.
03-11-2013 05:18 AM
callisto9
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It's most likely due to an ammonia spike when the plants were uprooted. That will happen every time. If you took out 20% of the water tonight, do another 20% water change (just water, no need to siphon gravel or mulm out more tonight) and do another 20% water change tomorrow. Retest the water. If it's still high, keep up with the small water changes every other day until it's down again.

Be careful when pouring the water back in to avoid disturbing the substrate.

Also, do you have carbon filtration in your filter? It could need to be changed, especially given how much debris has been kicked up lately.
OK, done. I probably changed out about 80% of the water today between the original WC, the airline tubing clean and the 3 gallon WC I just did.

Hope all my fishies are ok.
03-11-2013 03:58 AM
bluestems
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Well oddly enough, I have a high ammo reading - .50ppm
Nitrates are 5.0 ppm and nitrites are 0 ppm.

What should I do about the high ammo reading? I'm worried!!! I've never had it this high before. Odd considering how much water, poo and mulm I got out today!

I don't think my LFS has pygmy cories unfortunately. Those are the ones I want, too!

I'd say about 70% of the mulm is out.
It's most likely due to an ammonia spike when the plants were uprooted. That will happen every time. If you took out 20% of the water tonight, do another 20% water change (just water, no need to siphon gravel or mulm out more tonight) and do another 20% water change tomorrow. Retest the water. If it's still high, keep up with the small water changes every other day until it's down again.

Be careful when pouring the water back in to avoid disturbing the substrate.

Also, do you have carbon filtration in your filter? It could need to be changed, especially given how much debris has been kicked up lately.
03-11-2013 03:41 AM
callisto9 Well oddly enough, I have a high ammo reading - .50ppm
Nitrates are 5.0 ppm and nitrites are 0 ppm.

What should I do about the high ammo reading? I'm worried!!! I've never had it this high before. Odd considering how much water, poo and mulm I got out today!

I don't think my LFS has pygmy cories unfortunately. Those are the ones I want, too!

I'd say about 70% of the mulm is out.
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