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01-01-2013 02:24 AM
sayurasem
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Originally Posted by hedge_fund View Post
I can confirm that AlgaeFix will kill inverts. I scooped out a few scuds and shrimp. Put them in a cup and poured two drops of this stuff....everything is dead 1 hour later. Obviously I did a lower concentration for the tank so it might take a few days before things start dying off.
Scuds can hide inside the substrate for a long time. And I hate chemical :x
01-01-2013 01:54 AM
GDP Yeah they were all SSS. But once I seen those damn things scurrying around I refused to ever put my hand back in there. I would have nuked it from orbit just to be sure.
01-01-2013 01:51 AM
MABJ 0.0 I'd have found a way to make it work. High grade CRS are neat lol
01-01-2013 01:50 AM
GDP I hate scuds. Got them in my 20g ... I let all the CRS and everything in that tank die. Then I threw out the whole tank. Such a shame too because they were really high grade CRS and had a lot of nice plants in that tank.
12-31-2012 06:26 PM
hedge_fund Thanks Tom. I was actually wondering how long I should be dosing this stuff. Glad you were able to clarify all my question marks.
12-31-2012 05:01 PM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by zzrguy View Post
You are going to need active carbon to get rid of the algae fix when you are happy happy happy that al the vermin are gone. You might need to run two or more loads of carbon.
No, you do not, it binds rapidly to soil/organic matter, thus is already rendered non toxic rapidly, then bacteria break it down.

If the pesticide is bound to organic matter, it cannot target the shrimp, algae etc.

You can do a large water change after, this is par for the treatments for algae, any large change etc. Unlike say Copper, it cannot re release back into the tank later on, since the active ingredient is now broken down. Cooper would require a nuke reactor to "decompose" into something non toxic, this needs bound or removed. Algaefix does not. Chemical pesticides that persist in the water are bad, like atrazine. You want things that bind or break down into non toxic by products relatively fast.
12-31-2012 04:55 PM
plantbrain
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Originally Posted by hedge_fund View Post
I can confirm that AlgaeFix will kill inverts. I scooped out a few scuds and shrimp. Put them in a cup and poured two drops of this stuff....everything is dead 1 hour later. Obviously I did a lower concentration for the tank so it might take a few days before things start dying off.
Do not stop treating the tank, I treated the 2-3 day to see, it keeps on killing.

Plants are not effected nor fish.

I got about 20% kill, then around 50-70% with RCS. Amano's are tougher, but crawl out.

I never did get 100% kill.

Which is sort of what you need.

Might try a few more days of dosing. But that's a Grey area as far as plants and fish, they seem fine with 3 continuous days.

Snails? They are immortal. Unless you start killing fish and plants.
12-31-2012 04:23 PM
acitydweller no massacre photos please. i'm sort of adverse to any "scudicide" photos
12-31-2012 04:18 PM
Kitsune_Gem When I had an infestation of the blasted scruds, I threw my betta in there for 3 months, lost a few baby shrimp, but the adults are okay and my betta devastated my scruds. Haven't seen one since the betta was removed : )
12-31-2012 04:14 PM
MABJ
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Originally Posted by Soothing Shrimp View Post
yeah...actually...I don't need to see that.
Had no clue how to respond to that message, so I'm glad you did. That's disturbed..
12-31-2012 04:10 PM
Soothing Shrimp yeah...actually...I don't need to see that.
12-31-2012 07:32 AM
tunatime post pics of the mass kill of. it sucks you have to kill every thing but it would be cool to see
12-31-2012 05:47 AM
zzrguy You are going to need active carbon to get rid of the algae fix when you are happy happy happy that al the vermin are gone. You might need to run two or more loads of carbon.
12-31-2012 02:58 AM
fplata Hey man, keep an eye on your filter too much algafix will kill your bio filter as well


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12-31-2012 02:52 AM
jone what size difference is between them??? actually how big is a scud in general??? sorry for all the questions but there is no pictures or size reference that I can find..also ,can you easily see scuds antenea and legs with normal eyesight....seed shrimp are far too small to see any of their parts..
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Originally Posted by GeToChKn View Post
Seed shrimp are like little dots, can barely see them. Scuds look like potato bugs.
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