The Planted Tank Forum - Reply to Topic
Planted Tank Forums
Your Tanks Image Hosting *Tank Tracker * Plant Profiles Fish Profiles Planted Tank Guide Photo Gallery Articles

Go Back   The Planted Tank Forum > General Planted Tank Forums > Tank Journals > 12G Club: Got a 12 GalloN RimlesS or wanna get 1? PoSt/SeE HeRe!

Thread: 12G Club: Got a 12 GalloN RimlesS or wanna get 1? PoSt/SeE HeRe! Reply to Thread
Title:
  
Message:
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Topic Review (Newest First)
Today 03:25 AM
Fabulous Phil Thanks for your input!
Yesterday 07:09 PM
AquaAurora
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabulous Phil View Post
Yes I saw the substrate calculator but was wondering if weight and volume will be a factor since some substrates are lighter than others (Fluval Stratum for example). In other words a 12 lb bag of one substrate might be more in volume than another. What can you tell me about Black Diamond? Does it leech ammonia like ADA? Does it turn to mud like Stratum, after a few months? Is that the brand that sold in red buckets? Finally how much of it did you use for a 12 gallon long with some slopes?
Black Dimaond is an inert substitute for sand (its actualy coal slag) so there is no ammonia leeching, but it will not give any nutrinets to plants on it own, however it does not break down, ever (seen some journals with many many year old tanks using it, never replaced). I've used it in tanks with liquid fert dosing, and also have a tank with soil capped in black diamond that's doing well (trying to grow hc cuba but the MTS keep uprooting it x.x, micro, mini micro, and pygmy chain sword LOVE it though). 20/40 grit or -60 are good snad gradual sizes. Many people with burrowing/substrate sifting fish like cory and loaches use black diamond without issue. Like most sand s it needs rinsed before use, if you just put it in right from the bag and run any sort of filtration (anything but a sponge filter) you'll likely wreck the impeller. If you try to use this with larger granule substrates like gravel, the black diamond 'sand' will work its way down underneath the gravel over time (does not have this issue with soil).
I've used 3 bags ($24) to do substrate in: 2g, 3g, 6g, 7g, 12g long, 20g long, and 55g. Have shrimp, cory, and several fish species spread out over the tanks, everyone does well with it. I've found it much easier to plant in or re-anchor plants in, than gravel too.
Yesterday 06:46 PM
Fabulous Phil
Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaAurora View Post
Thank you ^^ It didn't start taking of until I stopped trying to mico manage it and just let it do its thing, turned into a wild mess quick. All I do now is 2x 50% water changes a week and daily liquid fert dosing... and very infrequent snipping of major gsa covered leaves. I want to clean the rocks but the shrimp love 'em.



Pesonally I am a fan on the Eheim canisters. I have a 2211 on the 12g here... also had a large sunsun (500+gph) on a 55g.. the sunsun was loud but I forget the eheim is under my desk (actually 2 under my desk-other one is on my 7g cube). I have no experince with that substrate. I use Black Diamond from Tractor supply co (50lb bag for $8! can't beat that!).
This forum actually has a substrate calculator you can use as a guide [click here to use]
Yes I saw the substrate calculator but was wondering if weight and volume will be a factor since some substrates are lighter than others (Fluval Stratum for example). In other words a 12 lb bag of one substrate might be more in volume than another. What can you tell me about Black Diamond? Does it leech ammonia like ADA? Does it turn to mud like Stratum, after a few months? Is that the brand that sold in red buckets? Finally how much of it did you use for a 12 gallon long with some slopes?
Yesterday 06:03 PM
AquaAurora
Quote:
Originally Posted by MsNemoShrimp View Post
What a beautiful setup AquaAurora!
Thank you ^^ It didn't start taking of until I stopped trying to mico manage it and just let it do its thing, turned into a wild mess quick. All I do now is 2x 50% water changes a week and daily liquid fert dosing... and very infrequent snipping of major gsa covered leaves. I want to clean the rocks but the shrimp love 'em.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabulous Phil View Post
Hello,
I just got myself a Mr. Aqua 12 gallon long after discovering this club and other sites about a year ago; and want to set up an Iwagumi tank. So far I got a great stand at Crate and Barrel. Check out the Avenue console table. http://www.crateandbarrel.com/avenue...e-table/f56293. I also got a 36" Finnex Planted Plus LED.
My next purchases will be a canister filter (undecided between theEheim 2215 or Fluval 206, or even a SunSun); the substrate, and I'm leaning toward Azoo Plant Grower Bed in black.
My main questions are: How many bags of Azoo substrate should I get? It's in 12 lb bags, but maybe it's lighter in weight to other substrates (like Eco), and therefore the calculator on this site may not be accurate. I see one other member said he used 1 1/2 bags.
The other question is on the canister filter; It's sort of like the Nikon vs. Canon debate. Eheim or Fluval?
Pesonally I am a fan on the Eheim canisters. I have a 2211 on the 12g here... also had a large sunsun (500+gph) on a 55g.. the sunsun was loud but I forget the eheim is under my desk (actually 2 under my desk-other one is on my 7g cube). I have no experince with that substrate. I use Black Diamond from Tractor supply co (50lb bag for $8! can't beat that!).
This forum actually has a substrate calculator you can use as a guide [click here to use]
Yesterday 05:24 PM
Fabulous Phil
Newbie questions

Hello,
I just got myself a Mr. Aqua 12 gallon long after discovering this club and other sites about a year ago; and want to set up an Iwagumi tank. So far I got a great stand at Crate and Barrel. Check out the Avenue console table. http://www.crateandbarrel.com/avenue...e-table/f56293. I also got a 36" Finnex Planted Plus LED.
My next purchases will be a canister filter (undecided between theEheim 2215 or Fluval 206, or even a SunSun); the substrate, and I'm leaning toward Azoo Plant Grower Bed in black.
My main questions are: How many bags of Azoo substrate should I get? It's in 12 lb bags, but maybe it's lighter in weight to other substrates (like Eco), and therefore the calculator on this site may not be accurate. I see one other member said he used 1 1/2 bags.
The other question is on the canister filter; It's sort of like the Nikon vs. Canon debate. Eheim or Fluval?
12-20-2014 01:06 AM
MsNemoShrimp What a beautiful setup AquaAurora!
12-17-2014 01:56 AM
AquaAurora I never got around to posting photos of my husband's 12g long.. its been through a few deaths and a complete italian val melt.. here's how it looks now (pardon the distortion of the first photos, panoramic shots).
Husband's desk view:

My desk view:



Some of the residents, including: otos, cherry/rilli mix shrimp colony (which started as 5 that were suppose to be food)





And the dwarf puffer who was too dumb to figure out that shrimp=food... they swim right by his face all the time.. and he is terrified of the camera so no in focus shots =.=


[edit] adding current stats:
36" SAT freshwater + LED
Eheim 2211 canister
black diamond substrate
2 rose quartz rocks
DIY Lexan lid
Plants include: hydro so Japan, penny sort, pygmy chain sword, creeping Jenny, riccia and some pesky duckweed.
12-02-2014 12:11 AM
MsNemoShrimp
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtydonato View Post
Thank you MsNemoShrimp! This is the first time that I'm aquascaping with just baby tears and so far it's growing in so thick and lush! The plants are super healthy!

Yes I cover it fully with plastic wrap...take it off for like 45 min to allow gas exchange... But for 2 weeks I didn't use the plastic wrap ... And they grow decently... But it appears as you said my plants have hit a huge growth spurt! It's amazing to see how fast the runners are traveling.

IMO I think this tank is awesome!!!
Love the 12 gallon long!!
Wow, love to see how healthy your HC is doing. Are you using ADA powder type? Perfect for this sized tank

They don't go dry on your without the wrap? I think once it hits a certain level it's fine but perhaps you don't have moss to worry about. If you dry start with moss, wrapping it is pretty much essential.
11-26-2014 05:49 AM
dirtydonato Here is a progress picture. First one was taken the night I planted which was on Octobed 28th. In 27 days the growth is incredible.

This is my very first DSM and so far it's very straight forward! I have a marineland 36" LED full spectrum 5600k and two 18" = 36" finnex Ray2's directly on the glass right now. No algea problems or mold. Temperature is steady in the high 70's
11-26-2014 05:36 AM
dirtydonato
Quote:
Originally Posted by MsNemoShrimp View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtydonato View Post
My 12gallon long

Took these pics today. I'm about 5 weeks into the dry start. It's looking fantastic! I'm very please and excited for the baby tears to carpet the entire bottom. Let me know what y'all think
That's growing out VERY nice. You don't add anything to trap in the moisture for the DSM? Looks ready in about another 5 weeks. Mostly likely will get a 95% cover. It takes awhile to initiate but once it grabs hold, it'll grow like it hit a growth spurt. Lol
Thank you MsNemoShrimp! This is the first time that I'm aquascaping with just baby tears and so far it's growing in so thick and lush! The plants are super healthy!

Yes I cover it fully with plastic wrap...take it off for like 45 min to allow gas exchange... But for 2 weeks I didn't use the plastic wrap ... And they grow decently... But it appears as you said my plants have hit a huge growth spurt! It's amazing to see how fast the runners are traveling.

IMO I think this tank is awesome!!!
Love the 12 gallon long!!
11-25-2014 11:49 PM
MsNemoShrimp
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirtydonato View Post
My 12gallon long

Took these pics today. I'm about 5 weeks into the dry start. It's looking fantastic! I'm very please and excited for the baby tears to carpet the entire bottom. Let me know what y'all think
That's growing out VERY nice. You don't add anything to trap in the moisture for the DSM? Looks ready in about another 5 weeks. Mostly likely will get a 95% cover. It takes awhile to initiate but once it grabs hold, it'll grow like it hit a growth spurt. Lol
11-24-2014 09:54 AM
dirtydonato My 12gallon long

Took these pics today. I'm about 5 weeks into the dry start. It's looking fantastic! I'm very please and excited for the baby tears to carpet the entire bottom. Let me know what y'all think
11-24-2014 02:43 AM
shift Innovative marine
Tank log > http://fishtankprojects.com/aquascap...rimp-city.html
11-24-2014 12:28 AM
bigd603
Quote:
Originally Posted by shift View Post
It's 36x12x13. Essentially a big brother of the 12g long. I got it at a local pet store. Was there display one (last one!). A little over priced but I jain loved the look of the tank with bent corners
That sounds great. What brand?
11-23-2014 11:48 PM
shift It's 36x12x13. Essentially a big brother of the 12g long. I got it at a local pet store. Was there display one (last one!). A little over priced but I jain loved the look of the tank with bent corners
This thread has more than 15 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Planted Tank LLC 2012